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These guys are considered moderate? 10 years 1000 lashes

I don't think anyone considers the Saudis moderate. And we keep doing business for them because they have a substantial stake in a resource that drives the world economy, and they are relatively friendly to the US compared to anyone else who make take over the control of said resource.

This country doesn't have many problems with dealing with low lives.
 
Nate505 said:
I don't think anyone considers the Saudis moderate. And we keep doing business for them because they have a substantial stake in a resource that drives the world economy, and they are relatively friendly to the US compared to anyone else who make take over the control of said resource.

This country doesn't have many problems with dealing with low lives.
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Understand.

Should we not have a moral compass no more? I hear Americans (especially at BYU) telling that greatest US export is constitution. Why not stick to your morals if this is what you believe? No more business with Saudis is my say.
 
Morals died with the cold war, and some would argue earlier, perhaps from the Spanish American war on (at least in terms of foreign policy as it relates to the US).
 
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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, Jan. 14 (UPI) -- Saudi Arabia will resume flogging blogger Raif Badawi Friday as part of his sentence of 1,000 lashes and 10 years in prison.Badawi was arrested in 2012 for cybercrime and insulting Islam on his website The Liberal Saudi Network. He received the first 50 of the thousand lashes Friday Jan. 9. The next round of flogging is set to take place Friday Jan. 16.
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These punishments aren't shocking. People in the Middle East and Southeast Asia and other places where civil liberties don't exist have all sorts of draconian punishments for everything. They don't have Western Values...they have their own ****ed up values that suck.

Many people here cheer the Singapore's of the world for executing drug dealers, and we are on great terms with that country (they also have heavy restrictions on speech and the press and media). I think that's barbaric, but there comes a point where one man's barbarism is another man's righteous punishment. Morals/ethics are a surprisingly flexible thing.

Hell, some in Europe would not want to do business with the US because we execute people for murder.
 
Nate505 said:
These punishments aren't shocking. People in the Middle East and Southeast Asia and other places where civil liberties don't exist have all sorts of draconian punishments for everything. They don't have Western Values...they have their own ****ed up values that suck.

Many people here cheer the Singapore's of the world for executing drug dealers, and we are on great terms with that country (they also have heavy restrictions on speech and the press and media). I think that's barbaric, but there comes a point where one man's barbarism is another man's righteous punishment. Morals/ethics are a surprisingly flexible thing.

Hell, some in Europe would not want to do business with the US because we execute people for murder.
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The death penalty is legal in our own country and one that is hotely debated.

Personally I am in favor of it and think it needs to be expanded.
 
the Saudi government controls its people, I'm not sure the same can be said for Syria, Iraq, Yemen and other countries that seem to be controlled by gangs of hooligans
 
moevillini said:
oh the horrors of disfellowshipment!!!!


do you think he'd rather have 50 lashes?
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Not comparing it to an authoritative government and barbaric punishment, but shows how the ideologies of Mormonism and Wahhabist Islam are disturbingly close. The Catholic church has traditionally been like this too.
 
Nate505 said:
These punishments aren't shocking. People in the Middle East and Southeast Asia and other places where civil liberties don't exist have all sorts of draconian punishments for everything. They don't have Western Values...they have their own ****ed up values that suck.

Many people here cheer the Singapore's of the world for executing drug dealers, and we are on great terms with that country (they also have heavy restrictions on speech and the press and media). I think that's barbaric, but there comes a point where one man's barbarism is another man's righteous punishment. Morals/ethics are a surprisingly flexible thing.

Hell, some in Europe would not want to do business with the US because we execute people for murder.
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I admire Europeans for sticking to morals. They already banned our GMO foods that are killing Americans or making fat. We should have spine like them and embargo Saudi.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
The best way to make radical Muslim extremists is to try to befriend them and educate them. (I previously pointed out that the most extreme countries are the countries with the worst literacy rates)

https://guardianlv.com/2013/11/kkk-...-joke-and-what-happens-next-will-astound-you/

This black musician singlehandedly reduced the numbers of KKK members in Maryland by befriending them.
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Typo?

or

Trying to make friends with muslims makes them radical extremists?
 
fallenchicken said:
Not comparing it to an authoritative government and barbaric punishment, but shows how the ideologies of Mormonism and Wahhabist Islam are disturbingly close. The Catholic church has traditionally been like this too.
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Violate the laws of Jazzfanz and you might be "disfellowshipped" from this site for a time or even receive a perma-ban. Oh the horrors of Jazzfanz - it's such a radical extremist site! And the moderators are just puppets of a tyrannical leader named Jason. He probably sits in a throne at home wearing his hockey mask, surrounded by servants fanning him with palm fronds.
 
Gameface said:
Typo?

or

Trying to make friends with muslims makes them radical extremists?
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I was wondering the same thing

I think it must have been a typo
 
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