Boom Bitches and We Aren't Very Good

[homeytennis]

Why doesn't Novak ever play? I get it, he's one dimensional. But when you're elite at that dimension you should at least see the floor for a couple minutes. Dude doesn't even play in blowouts, does he?

It just seems I have heard the "tired" excuse from Locke and Snyder before. If the lads are tired put these other guys in the game or get rid of them. Perhaps they would have some value at the trade deadline but it seems obvious to me that Snyder has no confidence in Clark, Novak or Evans. Surely there are guys in that minor league or playing overseas that could help. We have cut guys this year we have owed money to. Now is the time.

 

[JohnnyClutch]

Humphries? I'd have traded him for a for a nice MLT – mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They’re so perky, I love that.

 

[LogGrad98]

I too am curious why Evans and Novak get literally zero burn. I guess coach has seen enough in practice to know what he has, and apparently he doesn't think he has very much there.

 

[franklin]

I too am curious why Evans and Novak get literally zero burn. I guess coach has seen enough in practice to know what he has, and apparently he doesn't think he has very much there.

I'm guessing he wants to build chemistry with the guys or type of guys he wants going forward. I won't believe a good coach can't find a way to use the unique talents of Jeremy Evans. Every great coach would find a way to abuse teams with him for a few plays every game. There's another reason Jeremy isn't playing, a reason that fits into Snyder's long term planning.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm guessing he wants to build chemistry with the guys or type of guys he wants going forward. I won't believe a good coach can't find a way to use the unique talents of Jeremy Evans. Every great coach would find a way to abuse teams with him for a few plays every game. There's another reason Jeremy isn't playing, a reason that fits into Snyder's long term planning.

A very simple reason: Evans won't be here next year. And neither will Clark. Why waste time giving minutes to players who won't be here? Isn't that the Corbin way that we complained about for 3 years? As for Novak, he flat out sucks on the defensive end. We got a 2nd for taking on his TWO year contract. Big deal. Those can be bought for less.

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

Koufos is just one of many that we've either traded for nothing or just let walk, and have turned into decent NBA players.

Koufos
Matthews
Millsap
Korver
Carroll
Jefferson
Humphries

Koufos I could understand, still not a productive player post trade. Kris Humphries had years to develop and in my opinion never did. His highlight is banging a Kardashian broad. The rest we could have at least made an effort.

There have been many drafts that we have failed on more than we won.
1999 Scott Padgett was drafted ahead of Manu Ginobili
2001 Raul Lopez was selected in front of Jamaal Tinsley, Gerald Wallace, Samuel Dalembert, Bobby Simmons, Mehmet Okur, Gilbert Arenas and Tony Parker
2002 Curtis Borchardt was selected in front of Luis Scola, Nenad Krstic, John Salmons, Matt Barnes, Tayshaun Prince and Carlos Boozer
2004 Kris Humphries was selected in front of Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Jameer Nelson, Tony Allen, Kevin Martin and Anderson Varajeo
2007 Morris Almond was selected in front of Aaron Brooks, Arron Afflalo, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry Glen Davis, Ramon Sessions and Marc Gasol


Keep in mind that even though DL is the GM, KOC is pulling the strings behind the scenes as President of basketball operations. The same guy that failed to recognize talent while these drafts were taking place that I listed above.

 

[latin jazz]

Why doesn't Novak ever play? I get it, he's one dimensional. But when you're elite at that dimension you should at least see the floor for a couple minutes. Dude doesn't even play in blowouts, does he?

Easy, defense. As soon as he gets on the floor the opposing team start posting him up or attack the basket...and they score every single time. Sure, he can knock down a couple of threes but his overall contribution is detrimental to the team. PF is our deepest position. Why would you give him minutes when you are still trying to develop the other bigs? and also have Booker, who can provide energy, some scoring and his defense is obviously better than novak

 

[green]

Can the Jazz cut/buy Novak out this summer. Or is he guaranteed to be on the team next year?

 

[Stifle Tower]

Koufos I could understand, still not a productive player post trade. Kris Humphries had years to develop and in my opinion never did. His highlight is banging a Kardashian broad. The rest we could have at least made an effort.

There have been many drafts that we have failed on more than we won.
1999 Scott Padgett was drafted ahead of Manu Ginobili
2001 Raul Lopez was selected in front of Jamaal Tinsley, Gerald Wallace, Samuel Dalembert, Bobby Simmons, Mehmet Okur, Gilbert Arenas and Tony Parker
2002 Curtis Borchardt was selected in front of Luis Scola, Nenad Krstic, John Salmons, Matt Barnes, Tayshaun Prince and Carlos Boozer
2004 Kris Humphries was selected in front of Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Jameer Nelson, Tony Allen, Kevin Martin and Anderson Varajeo
2007 Morris Almond was selected in front of Aaron Brooks, Arron Afflalo, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry Glen Davis, Ramon Sessions and Marc Gasol


Keep in mind that even though DL is the GM, KOC is pulling the strings behind the scenes as President of basketball operations. The same guy that failed to recognize talent while these drafts were taking place that I listed above.

The same KOC that is "working from home?" KOC is barely involved with the Jazz; he certainly isn't making major decisions today; he's a consultant, nothing more. As for the draft, ANY team can make a list like you did. How about getting maybe the 2nd best player at #9 in Hayward. Sure we missed out on George, although GH's stats are arguably equal this year to what PG had last season. But GH - amidst a round of boos at the ESA - was selected over others such as Babbitt, Henry, Aldrich, etc.

Also, how about the swindle of the century when KOC traded up from the #6 to get Deron instead of standing pat and taking Green or Felton? If you're going to point out misses, you also have to acknowledge the very good and great picks. Oh, BTW, was KOC the genius behind drafting Gobert at #27?

 

[latin jazz]

There have been many drafts that we have failed on more than we won.
1999 Scott Padgett was drafted ahead of Manu Ginobili
2001 Raul Lopez was selected in front of Jamaal Tinsley, Gerald Wallace, Samuel Dalembert, Bobby Simmons, Mehmet Okur, Gilbert Arenas and Tony Parker
2002 Curtis Borchardt was selected in front of Luis Scola, Nenad Krstic, John Salmons, Matt Barnes, Tayshaun Prince and Carlos Boozer
2004 Kris Humphries was selected in front of Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Jameer Nelson, Tony Allen, Kevin Martin and Anderson Varajeo
2007 Morris Almond was selected in front of Aaron Brooks, Arron Afflalo, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry Glen Davis, Ramon Sessions and Marc Gasol

Keep in mind that even though DL is the GM, KOC is pulling the strings behind the scenes as President of basketball operations. The same guy that failed to recognize talent while these drafts were taking place that I listed above.

So many guys on that list I wouldn't like on my team: Arenas? JR Smith? 2001 Tinsley? really? You see those guys playing for Sloan?. Bobby Simmons? C'mon. Remember that the Jazz drafted in the low 20s all those years (except for the 2004 draft). Finding talent there is extremely difficult, so many factors determine whether a pick pan out or not. Every NBA team has a list like this. Every year there is player in the 20s or the second round who turns out to be stater or even a star.

He wasn't the best in the draft but what about aknowledging the good picks? Kirilenko, Millsap, Mo Williams?. Also, he was good at acquiring talent that could fit the team (snatching Boozer, Okur, moving up for DWill, Korver, Big Al...). In a span of a couple years we went from having Guggliota as starter to being contenders for 3 years. IMO his biggest mistakes were on keeping talent . He should have kept Mo and Wesley, who signed reasonable offer sheets at the time. The mammoth Kirilenko contract ruined us (perhaps he should have pushed harder on that rumored Marion swap). We needed to go further over the cap, which you should do when you are a contender and want to keep talent (see how OKC screw it up with Harden by cheaping out).

All in all, he has done a good job. We were a really good team until the DWill debacle. Then, he acquired valuable assets in the DWill trade and managed the cap quite well until DL was on board. I'm quite optimistic about the future.

 

[fishonjazz]

So many guys on that list I wouldn't like on my team: Arenas? JR Smith? 2001 Tinsley? really? You see those guys playing for Sloan?. Bobby Simmons? C'mon. Remember that the Jazz drafted in the low 20s all those years (except for the 2004 draft). Finding talent there is extremely difficult, so many factors determine whether a pick pan out or not. Every NBA team has a list like this. Every year there is player in the 20s or the second round who turns out to be stater or even a star.

He wasn't the best in the draft but what about aknowledging the good picks? Kirilenko, Millsap, Mo Williams?. Also, he was good at acquiring talent that could fit the team (snatching Boozer, Okur, moving up for DWill, Korver, Big Al...). In a span of a couple years we went from having Guggliota as starter to being contenders for 3 years. IMO his biggest mistakes were on keeping talent . He should have kept Mo and Wesley, who signed reasonable offer sheets at the time. We couldn't afford them thanks to the mammoth Kirilenko contract (perhaps he should have pushed harder on that rumored Marion swap).

All in all, he has done a good job. We were a really good team until the DWill debacle. Then, he acquired valuable assets in the DWill trade and managed the cap quite well until DL was on board. I'm quite optimistic about the future.

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[NUMBERICA]

The Jazz totally ****ing fumbled on Koufos. Bench him INDEFINITELY in favor of Collins for no apparent reason? Get the **** out of here.