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Kanter traded to OKC

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Catchall said:
Jazz are tanking. The only other team that made a deal similar to Utah today was Philadelphia.
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I don't think so, Catch. They're rebuilding and "not skipping steps" but they're not outright tanking - as was clearly the case last year.

I think the belief of the Jazz is that they have potential superstars in Gobert and Exum, and very, very nice players in Hayward and Favors. As such, they want to maximize the development of those players and see if they're truly destined to make the leap to stars, while keeping as much flexibility as possible so that when the developmental leap DOES happen, that they can bolster their roster with a strong supporting cast that can make a playoff run.

They weren't willing to pay Kanter what he wanted, thought he was impeding the development of Gobert and Favors, and didn't think that based on everything they'd seen that Enes had the same potential as Favors/Gobert.

Had we not done the deal, everyone who is currently complaining about what we got back would be pissed at the end of the season when we didn't match Kanter and got "nothing back."
 
This is a terrible trade for us. We recieved no player since were going to cut Perk. Also we made the team who's pick were recieving much better, and they are all ready of of the best teams in the league. So for a 22yr old 15,8 player who was drafted #3 we get a 25-30 pick in two years?

Heres the judging factor; are we better or worse after this trade? We are worse. All the experts are saying OKC made out the best BECAUSE of Kanter! How would it be any different if we held Kanter for a sign and trade at the end of the year?

This is the worst trade I have witnessed for our team I have seen in my 12yrs as a Jazz fan. I HATE THIS TRADE!
 
Flc said:
I don't think so, Catch. They're rebuilding and "not skipping steps" but they're not outright tanking - as was clearly the case last year.

I think the belief of the Jazz is that they have potential superstars in Gobert and Exum, and very, very nice players in Hayward and Favors. As such, they want to maximize the development of those players and see if they're truly destined to make the leap to stars, while keeping as much flexibility as possible so that when the developmental leap DOES happen, that they can bolster their roster with a strong supporting cast that can make a playoff run.

They weren't willing to pay Kanter what he wanted, thought he was impeding the development of Gobert and Favors, and didn't think that based on everything they'd seen that Enes had the same potential as Favors/Gobert.

Had we not done the deal, everyone who is currently complaining about what we got back would be pissed at the end of the season when we didn't match Kanter and got "nothing back."
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Not getting D'Angelo Russel or Emmanuel Mudiay in this draft I think would be "skipping steps".
 
Diamond77 said:
I'm beginning to lose faith in DL....too many words and few facts. He sounds like a bluffer.
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Like Catch said, I think this sets us up perfectly for a tank.



I've still got faith in Lindsey, but if we don't get a top #6 pick this year I might lose it as well.
 
Diamond77 said:
I'm beginning to lose faith in DL....too many words and few facts. He sounds like a bluffer.
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lose faith in a dude who got the best player with a purchased 27th pick of an NBA draft.


****ing Jazzfanz.
 
Man. Rough that this is all we could get for Kanter, though I'm not surprised that this was the best offer for an expiring contract.

DL interview tidbits:
Lol @ DL calling this a significant haul (later qualifies: for someone on the last year of his contract). Says he likes some FA this summer. Favors development has been faster than he expected, Rudy has had exponential growth.

May be, maybe time to add vets this summer. Basically says Tibor and Jerrett are projects.

14-19 million in cap room this summer.

QS had significant input.
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At the end of the day, Kanter was one of my favorites and I had a lot of faith in him before he was injured. Since the injuries, I just haven't seen the same fire. I wish him the best and hope this doesn't come back to haunt us.
 
DL is really good... I'm glad he is our guy. Some would have sat on Kanter and prolonged this garbage thinking we could "restore" some value. Kanter wasn't a great pick... it happens. The guy who was picked before him was traded for nothing. We got out from under a semi-bad deal and got some assets. those who thought we were getting Middleton were as delusional as Max Ergul.
 
Didn't realize that OKC gave up the rights to Tibor Pleiss?

You scored a gem if you can bring him over this year.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
DL is really good... I'm glad he is our guy. Some would have sat on Kanter and prolonged this garbage thinking we could "restore" some value. Kanter wasn't a great pick... it happens. The guy who was picked before him was traded for nothing. We got out from under a semi-bad deal and got some assets. those who thought we were getting Middleton were as delusional as Max Ergul.
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So all the experts who are saying that this trade made the Thunder much better are twlking out their a$$'s? If we held Kanter untill the end of the season and signed and traded we could have gotten so much more. If not then we let him walk and get the same mouthfull of nothing were chewing on now. Its like we folded on a bluff and the opposition had a 2,3 off suit.
 
JoelHodgeJr said:
This is a terrible trade for us. We recieved no player since were going to cut Perk. Also we made the team who's pick were recieving much better, and they are all ready of of the best teams in the league. So for a 22yr old 15,8 player who was drafted #3 we get a 25-30 pick in two years?

Heres the judging factor; are we better or worse after this trade? We are worse. All the experts are saying OKC made out the best BECAUSE of Kanter! How would it be any different if we held Kanter for a sign and trade at the end of the year?

This is the worst trade I have witnessed for our team I have seen in my 12yrs as a Jazz fan. I HATE THIS TRADE!
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S&T for restricted free agents don't happen. They simply outbid you instead of giving up an asset.
And just because Kanter was the best player involved doesn't mean we lost the trade, it just means we have better players than him and will be having no playing time for him
 
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