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Kanter traded to OKC

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Laramie said:
Didn't realize that OKC gave up the rights to Tibor Pleiss?

You scored a gem if you can bring him over this year.
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Welcome to JazzFanz, Laramie. Can you tell us more about Tibor?

Also, congrats on nabbing Kanter. You'll either love him or hate him, but we should all look forward to the day Ibaka slaps him for not passing or playing defense.
 
JoelHodgeJr said:
So all the experts who are saying that this trade made the Thunder much better are twlking out their a$$'s? If we held Kanter untill the end of the season and signed and traded we could have gotten so much more. If not then we let him walk and get the same mouthfull of nothing were chewing on now. Its like we folded on a bluff and the opposition had a 2,3 off suit.
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Who are all these "experts"? National guys do talk out of their *** when it comes to the Jazz. All they see is his numbers and think he is good. I've seen several guys saying that they don't understand this trade from OKC's perspective. We will see, but we didn't get nothing we got some valuable draft assets and cleared salary space... we wouldn't get that if we let him walk. It doesn't move the needle right now, but remember we got Gobert with the freakin 27th pick... it happens. We got G-time with a pick we owned from the Knicks for like a hundred years. You pick up assets and move on.
 
GVC said:
The Jazz picked up $3.75mil of cap space by dumping Novak, who never should have been acquired. Effectively, the Jazz traded the option to hold onto Kanter this offseason if nothing better comes around for a late 1st, two 2nds (including the one they received for Novak) and Pleiss. If DL doesn't turn the cap space into something this summer, he should be fired.
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Ok, so DL acquired two 2nds for 1/2 year of Novak. Not sure what your complaint is. Because he overpaid? meh.
 
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freakazoid said:
Ok, so DL acquired 2 2nds by acquiring Novak for 1/2 year. Not sure what your complaint is.
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And we got out from under the deal before it hurt us. I hated the Novak trade at the time, but DL has erased that mistake.
 
JoelHodgeJr said:
So all the experts who are saying that this trade made the Thunder much better are twlking out their a$$'s? If we held Kanter untill the end of the season and signed and traded we could have gotten so much more. If not then we let him walk and get the same mouthfull of nothing were chewing on now. Its like we folded on a bluff and the opposition had a 2,3 off suit.
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The trade made the Thunder better.

But if you're faced with a 22 year old player that doesn't pass or play defense, has a sub-20 PER, is demanding near-max money, and has informed you that he'll likely take the qualifying offer tender to A) eat your 2015 cap space, the last time your franchise has an opportunity to max a free agent before the cap balloons in 2016, and B) to then leave as an UFA the year after, and C) is impeding the progress of your top-15 league-wide PER power forward and your potential-to-be-a-superstar/franchise center and D) this is your last option to get ANY return on him...

You make the trade for whatever you can get.

If you're looking at this like: "What's better, Kanter or a D-Leaguer and a Euro?" you're thinking about it wrong.
If you're looking at this like: "What's better, a #3 draft pick or a #20 draft pick?" you're thinking about it wrong.

It isn't black and white, and the trade doesn't make sense unless you take in all the nuance.
 
How did anyone expect DL to get a great deal on Kanter, when Kanter himself poisoned the well by claiming he wanted out?
 
Flc said:
Had we not done the deal, everyone who is currently complaining about what we got back would be pissed at the end of the season when we didn't match Kanter and got "nothing back."
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True.
I'm still pissed though
I want my cake and eat it too
 
bezerkus said:
He's going to miss Utah...

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He's so close to just straight up having a handful of *** there.
 
fishonjazz said:
True.
I'm still pissed though
I want my cake and eat it too
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Yea, I mean the reality was that Utah was going to take the best offer they received, and the OKC one was it. Now I get why that info about Utah's high threshold for Kanter was "leaked". It's clear now that Utah wasn't getting any decent offers and pulled that little stunt to try up his market value. I guess Woj isn't some demigod after all and is fully capable of relaying false or misleading information.
 
The Jazz are a worse team today than they were last week. We will be damn lucky if that protected pick we get two or three years down the road ends up being Kanter's equal 6 years from now. The only thing that will make this trade pallatible is if DL signs a great free agent next summer with <sarcasm>all of that freed-up money</sarcasm>.
 
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