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Please fire Snyder and get a real coach in the summer

I never troll here. Ever.

I've decided to let the Corbin thing go as it's more than sullied my reputation and it's apparently too complex of a discussion for fans to deal with.

I will tell you all that my Corbin support has always been genuine.
 
franklin said:
I never troll here. Ever.

I've decided to let the Corbin thing go as it's more than sullied my reputation and it's apparently too complex of a discussion for fans to deal with.

I will tell you all that my Corbin support has always been genuine.
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I'm sure Corbin is a fine coach, the problem is that he and the new management didn't see eye to eye.

Coaches in the NBA are in a very tough job. Look at Vinnie del negro. Everyone thought he was a horrid coach, but he was probably a decent coach that just had a bad relationship with Chris Paul for reasons not his own fault.
 
I wonder if frank would be so down on Snyder and up Corbin's *** if he weren't black himself.
Racism is racism..
 
Corbin was plainly told that he would be judged by the teams D. He refused to make D a priority and was fired for it. He did not coach well. He did not make adjustments well. He did not listen to management. He set his own destiny.
 
JAZZGASM said:
Corbin was plainly told that he would be judged by the teams D. He refused to make D a priority and was fired for it. He did not coach well. He did not make adjustments well. He did not listen to management. He set his own destiny.
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He probably ain't the first person to lose his job over refusing the D.
 
franklin said:
The way I see it, the Jazz needed to win while also developing young talent in order to sell something to fans.
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During the year that got corbin fired most fans wanted the jazz to tank. Hard. We were openly rooting for losses.
 
Gameface said:
But I do know that he didn't develop a defensive identity.
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In fact, the jazz were dead last In the league defensively when he was supposed to be developing a defensive identity
 
fishonjazz said:
In fact, the jazz were dead last In the league defensively when he was supposed to be developing a defensive identity
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This is the most inexcusable part, given that Jefferson was on a top 10 defense the very next year, and Millsap has been on a very good defensive team in Atlanta. Maybe Corbin's teams were just very poorly built to be a defensive team, but more likely than not he is just not a very good defensive coach. Like Frank says though, he was not a bad offensive coach. I really don't think he was anything special, though. Not disappointed the Jazz let him take the fall for the rebuild.
 
b_line said:
I'm sure Corbin is a fine coach, the problem is that he and the new management didn't see eye to eye.
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That's more fan speculation. I bet Corbin would have loved to bench Kanter and play both ends of the floor. He did everything the FO wanted for years, so there's no reason to believe something like this. What, he suddenly went against the FO in his contract year, knowing the bad teams he coached had him against the ropes? Nonsense.



JAZZGASM said:
Corbin was plainly told that he would be judged by the teams D. He refused to make D a priority and was fired for it. He did not coach well. He did not make adjustments well. He did not listen to management. He set his own destiny.
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I can't take anyone's opinions seriously who thinks a coach could develop a defensive identity when starting a rookie point guard known for poor defense and Enes Kanter who puts up historically awful defensive numbers. Kanter makes Boozer look like The Glove. But I'm sure that was on Corbin too :rolleyes:
 
b_line said:
This is the most inexcusable part, given that Jefferson was on a top 10 defense the very next year, and Millsap has been on a very good defensive team in Atlanta. Maybe Corbin's teams were just very poorly built to be a defensive team, but more likely than not he is just not a very good defensive coach. Like Frank says though, he was not a bad offensive coach. I really don't think he was anything special, though. Not disappointed the Jazz let him take the fall for the rebuild.
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They defended okay with Millsap and Jefferson. Those teams were very poorly constructed for defense though. Raja Bell started 33 games. Devin Harris was the pg. Hayward and Favors were young. Earl Watson. CJ Miles. Josh Howard.

Yet Corbin still had them playing 19th in the league with that trash, and since everyone is forgetting, he still somehow squeaked the Jazz into the 8th seed.
 
fishonjazz said:
During the year that got corbin fired most fans wanted the jazz to tank. Hard. We were openly rooting for losses.
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I'm pretty sure that's what I wrote. Maybe you were drunk and didn't follow the convo. Corbin didn't play "sub-par vets" and try to win in the year he got fired. It was the previous years.


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I'm surprised how many people put the blame on anyone besides the Front Office when they were the ones who signed vet free agents to play over raw, developing young guys. You really believe Corbin was supposed to play Alec Burks, etc. those years and lose games? Nonsense. If they were supposed to lose then the FO would have done what DL did in the tank year and even this season.
 
franklin said:
They defended okay with Millsap and Jefferson. Those teams were very poorly constructed for defense though. Raja Bell started 33 games. Devin Harris was the pg. Hayward and Favors were young. Earl Watson. CJ Miles. Josh Howard.

Yet Corbin still had them playing 19th in the league with that trash, and since everyone is forgetting, he still somehow squeaked the Jazz into the 8th seed.
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I defended Corbin probably longer than anyone but you. I was not really part of the #fire99 team. I always thought they could do better than Ty, but I didn't think he was a bad coach. At the end though, I was just ready for something new. I like Quin, I still have faith that he will be a great offensive coach, and I think he is already a great defensive coach. I think he has a chance to be a special coach, but I am wearing down a little with the team overall.

I think we might see a big trade with one or two of the players that a lot of people love involved. I think the Front Office will take a big chance on winning big. Who knows though, maybe they will stick it out with the current group and one day get a three seed and maybe go to the western conference finals before rebuilding again with another new coach and group of players.
 
franklin said:
I'm pretty sure that's what I wrote. Maybe you were drunk and didn't follow the convo. Corbin didn't play "sub-par vets" and try to win in the year he got fired. It was the previous years.
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I was simply saying that he didn't need to try to win games during his last season. The fans were fine with losses and actually wanted them.

Instead he tried to win games anyways and that failed too.

He pretty much just sucked all around... For each team he coached.

Which is why it makes complete sense that he no longer coaching.
 
fishonjazz said:
I was simply saying that he didn't need to try to win games during his last season. The fans were fine with losses and actually wanted them.

Instead he tried to win games anyways and that failed too.

He pretty much just sucked all around... For each team he coached.

Which is why it makes complete sense that he no longer coaching.
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Okay, gotcha.

But why did the FO bring in a point guard when it was clear they were a Phili dumpster fire? They started out the season 1-14 and were on pace for Andrew Wiggins. Then, the FO dumps Play Teh Vets Ty's veterans and signs Diante Garret as backup to Trey when he returned from injury. Trey, at the time, was a fan favorite rookie with a lot of potential. The FO needed to sell tickets so Corbin played him way too many minutes per game instead of the FO selling the rebuild and needing Trey to learn from the bench under Jamaal Tinsley and JLIII.


You put this on Corbin. Tell me, why did the Jazz release Jamaal Tinsley on November 12 and sign Garrett on the 13th when they were the worst team in the league and headed to the #1 draft pick?
 
franklin said:
Okay, gotcha.

But why did the FO bring in a point guard when it was clear they were a Phili dumpster fire? They started out the season 1-14 and were on pace for Andrew Wiggins. Then, the FO dumps Play Teh Vets Ty's veterans and signs Diante Garret as backup to Trey when he returned from injury. Trey, at the time, was a fan favorite rookie with a lot of potential. The FO needed to sell tickets so Corbin played him way too many minutes per game instead of the FO selling the rebuild and needing Trey to learn from the bench under Jamaal Tinsley and JLIII.


You put this on Corbin. Tell me, why did the Jazz release Jamaal Tinsley on November 12 and sign Garrett on the 13th when they were the worst team in the league and headed to the #1 draft pick?
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Those are some good questions. They probably should have traded away their picks in the burke draft if they could and rolled with tinsley and JLIII.

Though maybe they thought an undersized rookie and a d-leaguer was tanking hard enough.
 
what's going on here?

bring david blatt while he's available and make snyder best assistant in the league

is that simple
 
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