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Jingled said:
I hope Jae's injury isn't serious and that him, Favors and Korver are all back next game.
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Jazz really seem to need jae and favors. Especially favors for the backup 5 minutes. We could get by without jae but it's difficult.
Honestly I like Royce better than korver and if thabo is hitting his three (his percentage is quite a bit better than korver on the year I think) then I like him better too.

Don't get be wrong, I do think we need korver come playoff time but we will be fine the rest of the regular season if he misses every game.



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fishonjazz said:
I mean LeBron is averaging 27.4 points (higher than his career average), 8.3 assists (higher than his career average and 3rd most of his career), and 8.5 rebounds (higher than his career average and 3rd most of his career)

Not too shabby for a down year.

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He played the soft part of the schedule this year and was out when things got tough. If you just take Donovan's stats for the soft part of the schedule, he is pretty remarkable as well.
 
fishonjazz said:
I mean LeBron is averaging 27.4 points (higher than his career average), 8.3 assists (higher than his career average and 3rd most of his career), and 8.5 rebounds (higher than his career average and 3rd most of his career)

Not too shabby for a down year.
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I didn't say it was shabby, I said he has slipped out of top 5.

Players decline. By 35, every single player does. I don't see why LeBron would be an exception and somehow come back stronger next year.
 
framer said:
He played the soft part of the schedule this year and was out when things got tough. If you just take Donovan's stats for the soft part of the schedule, he is pretty remarkable as well.
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So what you are saying is that you think LeBron wouldn't be very good when going against good opponents?

Agree to disagree. I have been watching LeBron for a long time. He is good against everyone. And I might be Rudy's biggest fan but LeBron is better than Rudy.

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JimLes said:
I didn't say it was shabby, I said he has slipped out of top 5.

Players decline. By 35, every single player does. I don't see why LeBron would be an exception and somehow come back stronger next year.
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Maybe you didn't read my post. Statistics say he didn't decline. He had one of the best years of his career in fact. He just got hurt finally. That's the only thing that slowed him down.


As far as next year and coming back stronger.... I wouldn't be surprised one bit. This will be his first year with some time off and he will probably be pissed that people are doubting him. Motivated.
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fishonjazz said:
Maybe you didn't read my post. Statistics say he didn't decline. He had one of the best years of his career in fact. He just got hurt finally. That's the only thing that slowed him down.
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Basic statistics say he didn't decline. Advanced stats tell a different story. Winshares, VORP, ORtg, TS%...a lot of things are down. The most damning thing is that the Lakers are a .500 team in the games he's played this year, never mind the overall record.

And injuries are part of the game. Physical decline, too.
 
JimLes said:
Basic statistics say he didn't decline. Advanced stats tell a different story. Winshares, VORP, ORtg, TS%...a lot of things are down. The most damning thing is that the Lakers are a .500 team in the games he's played this year, never mind the overall record.

And injuries are part of the game. Physical decline, too.
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Ya the Lakers do suck. He declined big time as a GM lol


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ricky damn near looked like he was point shaving or trying to throw the game in that 4th quarter. multiple TOs, a ton of missed shots/layups. as bad as exum tends to suck, he gets pulled after 1 or 2 similar TOs or bad shots.
 
jazzETX said:
ricky damn near looked like he was point shaving or trying to throw the game in that 4th quarter. multiple TOs, a ton of missed shots/layups. as bad as exum tends to suck, he gets pulled after 1 or 2 similar TOs or bad shots.
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Call me crazy, but it might have something to do with the prior 20 points and 13 assists. Who is this exum you talk about?
 
RRJazz said:
Call me crazy, but it might have something to do with the prior 20 points and 13 assists. Who is this exum you talk about?
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I agree completely, all i'm saying is that quin has an increased trust in ricky despite when he may be F'ing up. this happens even when he's having a horrible game that quin will refuse to pull him. his prior play during this game was great yes, but i'm strictly referring to his 4th quarter play.
 
Deckard said:
Jazzta pienso lo mismo.Yo ya he arrojado la toalla, nunca es suficiente.Tengo ganas de ver que harán el año que viene con su superfichaje y sin Ricky
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Me temo que tienes razon y que Ricky no seguira aqui el año que viene, salvo si encuentran ese superfichaje y Ricky acepte un rol menor con el equipo, lo cual es posible porque segun entiendo le gusta mucho Utah y jugar bajo la tutela de Quin. Pero si se va a otro equipo tambien lo entendere. Yo seguire siendo fan de los Jazz como lo he sido desde pequeño pero el caso es que nunca he visto un jugador aqui tan mirado con lupa, un jugador por otro lado tan leal y tan querido por el resto de los jugadores. Pero bueno, vamos a ver que tal estos playoffs y veremos lo que pasa con Ricky.
 
fishonjazz said:
Honestly I like Royce better than korver and if thabo is hitting his three (his percentage is quite a bit better than korver on the year I think) then I like him better too.

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Royce and Thabo are pathetically flawed compared to Korver! Korver knows our system backward and forward, is a better shooter and plays better defense as well! I don't even know why Thabo is even on our team or gets any playing time!
 
fishonjazz said:
So what you are saying is that you think LeBron wouldn't be very good when going against good opponents?

Agree to disagree. I have been watching LeBron for a long time. He is good against everyone. And I might be Rudy's biggest fan but LeBron is better than Rudy.

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Lakers had a home heavy start to the season. Most players play better at home against poorer competition. I'm not saying Lebron is bad, I'm just saying "best season evah!" comes with asterisks.
 
I don't think it was his best season ever. Just a Good enough season to still be considered a top 5 type player in the league.

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str8line said:
Lebron still da best until further notice.
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I mean let's at least wait until his actual production declines before writing him off.
He isn't your typical 35 year old. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he is a special athlete. If there was ever an outlier it's him.

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