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Semantics. There are all kinds of "mistakes." The example you give is one. A "poor choice" that produces an outcome that the actor did not intend is another type of mistake. See, e.g., Merriam Webster, Oxford, and Cambridge: "an action or decision that is wrong or produces a result that is not correct or not intended."

My wife and I go to a restaurant. We are torn on what to order: I order the short ribs, she orders the black cod. Both look like good options; I'm honestly not sure which one is going to be better. Turns out my short ribs are overcooked, dry, and one-note while her black cod melts in my mouth like butter while my taste buds explode in a simultaneous orgasm. She made the better choice. Did I make a mistake? Depends on how you define it. Poor choice. Yes. Was that poor choice a "mistake?" Absolutely. I certainly desired a better experience with my meal and would have had that experience had I not chosen poorly.

Same scenario with a twist: My wife and I walk into that same restaurant having done our research. Both friends and critics alike agree that the black cod is one of the best seafood dishes any of them has ever had. But I don't feel like seafood. I want something heartier, so I still choose the short ribs because that's what I feel like that night. I think it probably will suit my palate better. But I was wrong. I made a mistake by not listening to the experts.

Twenty/twenty hindsight teaches us that the Jazz made a terrible mistake drafting DWill instead of CP3 no matter how you characterize it -- exacerbated by the fact that most experts agreed that CP3 was the better choice.

As for the semantics debate we seem to be having, I chose to characterize DWill as "arguably the biggest draft mistake in Jazz history" in my OP, but could have easily said he was "arguably the poorest choice of any draft pick in Jazz history." Either way, I stand by my post.
I never argued the dwill draft choice. I listed that among my top mistakes. The ones I do not view as mistakes are ones like wright, taken later in the draft and didn't pan out. Isn't really a mistake, it just didn't work out.

By the way, never get the short ribs. No one does them right.
 
I could be off, but I thought ai remembered the trade or Dominique for cash as a deal to save the Jazz and that if they didn’t get the cash they were done. 3 Mil or some such number. If not for that trade, no Jazz. I’d call that a successful trade because of necessity.
That was definitely not the case. The Jazz got $1M plus John "the Drugslinger" Drew and Freeman Williams. Then-owner Sam Battistone was reportedly cash-strapped, but the word in the press was that the trade occurred ONLY because Dominique refused to report and demanded the trade.
 
By the way, never get the short ribs. No one does them right.
I'm not eating much red meat, but I have definitely had some DELICIOUS short ribs over the years. Love the ones marbled with fat, moist, and falling off the bone with a potato, sunchoke, or celeriac puree.

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BTW, why do so many people HATE the word "moist?" Something to think about . . . .
 
I'm not eating much red meat, but I have definitely had some DELICIOUS short ribs over the years. Love the ones marbled with fat, moist, and falling off the bone with a potato, sunchoke, or celeriac puree.

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BTW, why do so many people HATE the word "moist?" Something to think about . . . .
Don't say that word.
 
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/07/30/years-ago-jazz-traded-an/
This is where I read it. There may be 2 stories out there.

I wanted the link down here. Oh well.
This all went down when I was about 15 or 16, so I will admit that the memories are a bit vague. My recollection is that the local media (this was pre-ESPN/national cable for me) very much painted Dominique as the bad guy. I grew up hating him as a result. Certainly sounds plausible that Battistone didn't want local fans turning on him or the Jazz, so the story was leaked locally that they made the trade because Dominique refused to play in Utah. If it was a choice by the Jazz to get that $1m in cash from the Hawks, man, what a HUGE mistake. Dominique would have increased box office at the old Salt Palace dramatically.

Speaking of Battistone and the Salt Palace, he regularly showed up for games at half-time or skipped the game entirely. Some of my high school buddies and I would drive down to SLC, get cheap tix for the games ($5 or less), and sit down on the front row at mid-court in Battistone's seats. Pre-9/11, security didn't GAS where you sat. Players were great to us. We'd regularly chat up the Golden Griff, Bobby Hansen, Adrian Dantley, et al. At the end of one game, Hansen came over and gave one of my classmates his pair of game-worn sneakers. Can you imagine what those must be worth today? I'm guessing AT LEAST a cool $15.
 
At the end of one game, Hansen came over and gave one of my classmates his pair of game-worn sneakers. Can you imagine what those must be worth today? I'm guessing AT LEAST a cool $15.
I was mentally preparing my response to this until I read your answer.
 
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