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Nope. Bradley defends at an acceptable level while still rebounding like a monster. Our backup center will only be playing 10 minutes come playoff time. You don't go blow 10 million a year on that.

I never said to go blow 10 million on that. And Bradley is a fine player. I feel like we could win it all as is. It's just all about maximizing the opportunity. There are more experienced defenders out there and if the Jazz can get one at low cost I think they have too. It would eliminate the possibility of a young player getting overwhelmed in the playoffs and lessen the possibility that our backup bigs get picked on defensively.
 
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No.

Bojan is an awful defender who often gives up free points because he gets lost off-ball or messes up communication on D. Conley at least plays smart defense. I would maybe concede it's matchup dependent, but in most cases Bojan hurts the D way worse than Conley does.
 
I never said to go blow 10 million on that. And Bradley is a fine player. I feel like we could win it all as is. It's just all about maximizing the opportunity. There are more experienced defenders out there and if the Jazz can get one at low cost I think they have too. It would eliminate the possibility of a young player getting overwhelmed in the playoffs and lessen the possibility that our backup bigs get picked on defensively.

Or it could be a complete waste of money. We thought Ed Davis was a great fit for 5 million dollars and he turned out unplayable. No need to mess with the formula the odds are not in our favor.
 
No.

Bojan is an awful defender who often gives up free points because he gets lost off-ball or messes up communication on D. Conley at least plays smart defense. I would maybe concede it's matchup dependent, but in most cases Bojan hurts the D way worse than Conley does.
Agree to disagree.

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His final form is Black Phillip.
He's Satan who turns chicks into witches?
 
Tony Bradley has played well enough that we shouldn't be talking upgrading until the off-season. There isnt a backup center on the trade market for the right price, in my estimation. Bradley seems to get a bit more confident with every game and his approach step vertical actually isnt that bad, so he's actually finished some rolls with dunks instead of floaters.
 
Or it could be a complete waste of money. We thought Ed Davis was a great fit for 5 million dollars and he turned out unplayable. No need to mess with the formula the odds are not in our favor.

It's not really messing with the formula. If we were to trade for another center and it doesn't work out, Bradley still exists and is still on our bench.
 
No.

Bojan is an awful defender who often gives up free points because he gets lost off-ball or messes up communication on D. Conley at least plays smart defense. I would maybe concede it's matchup dependent, but in most cases Bojan hurts the D way worse than Conley does.
It's matchup dependent. However, Bojan has been a vastly superior offensive player and a better fit on that side, too. Hopefully Conley closes that gap as we go.
 
He's already on a path to all-time great if he holds w/e his current level of conditioning is.

Luka's eFG% in clutch minutes is an abysmal 39% - that's second worst in the NBA among top 20 Usage % players in clutch minutes (Jimmy Butler is the worst). And his TS% is dead last among top 20 usage players in the clutch at 44% (by comparison Donovan is 54%)

Luka's Net Rating in the clutch among top usage players is 4th worst in the NBA at -16.8. And it bears mentioning the other three with worse Net Ratings (Bradley Beal, Trae Young and Derrick Rose) play for **** teams.

The bottom line is Dallas is losing a lot of games to good teams late because in the last 5 minutes of close games they have the ball in the hands of one of the worst clutch players in The NBA. Now I can't speak to every game they lost but I can tell you tonight's game Luka looked shot in the 4th period. The only points he scored was on a layup where Rudy was trying to avoid his 6th foul.

Dude needs to get on the LeBron program.
 
Luka's eFG% in clutch minutes is an abysmal 39% - that's second worst in the NBA among top 20 Usage % players in clutch minutes (Jimmy Butler is the worst). And his TS% is dead last among top 20 usage players in the clutch at 44% (by comparison Donovan is 54%)

Luka's Net Rating in the clutch among top usage players is 4th worst in the NBA at -16.8. And it bears mentioning the other three with worse Net Ratings (Bradley Beal, Trae Young and Derrick Rose) play for **** teams.

The bottom line is Dallas is losing a lot of games to good teams late because in the last 5 minutes of close games they have the ball in the hands of one of the worst clutch players in The NBA. Now I can't speak to every game they lost but I can tell you tonight's game Luka looked shot in the 4th period. The only points he scored was on a layup where Rudy was trying to avoid his 6th foul.

Dude needs to get on the LeBron program.
That's more him needing a 2nd guy on his team than his conditioning being an issue.
 
Advanced stats say last year he was a good deal better on both ends, but I think I'd agree that he has been better this year. It's close tho.
andy larsen's analysis on rudy's winning block against delon wright kinda sums it up nicely

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/01/26/jazz-mavericks-analysis/



compared to the last two seasons in which rudy focus primarily on rim protection, he's forced to do more work on the perimeter this season and guard multiple guys at the same time, which ultimately hurts his defense stats. all due to us losing favors and replacing his minutes with bad defenders such as bojan and niang who would rely heavily on rudy to save their lives.

so despite tonight's win, i still view dallas as a bad matchup for us given the number of offensive weapons they have available to really work rudy on the perimeter and the inability of our perimeter defenders to keep up. we can't really expect rudy to consistently pull off that last play on a nightly basis. whenever rudy is drawn out of the paint to contest porzingis, finney smith, kleber, etc, they basically will have an clear path to take all the way to the basketball cuz we got nobody behind to step up and challenge. just in this game, we've seen at least 10 possessions in which doncic just drove to the basket completely unimpeded cuz rudy wasn't there. just way too easy. stuff like that will not work in our favor in a 7 game series.
 
Luka's eFG% in clutch minutes is an abysmal 39% - that's second worst in the NBA among top 20 Usage % players in clutch minutes (Jimmy Butler is the worst). And his TS% is dead last among top 20 usage players in the clutch at 44% (by comparison Donovan is 54%)

Luka's Net Rating in the clutch among top usage players is 4th worst in the NBA at -16.8. And it bears mentioning the other three with worse Net Ratings (Bradley Beal, Trae Young and Derrick Rose) play for **** teams.

The bottom line is Dallas is losing a lot of games to good teams late because in the last 5 minutes of close games they have the ball in the hands of one of the worst clutch players in The NBA. Now I can't speak to every game they lost but I can tell you tonight's game Luka looked shot in the 4th period. The only points he scored was on a layup where Rudy was trying to avoid his 6th foul.

Dude needs to get on the LeBron program.
He’s fine... has that Joe Ingles always tired kinda look to him naturally. Teams that center so much of their offense around one guy can get predictable... I don’t think he’s missing because he’s tired I think the game maybe gets a little harder and he’s still super young. I hope he doesn’t figure it out because that’s a bad man.
 
andy larsen's analysis on rudy's winning block against delon wright kinda sums it up nicely

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/01/26/jazz-mavericks-analysis/



compared to the last two seasons in which rudy focus primarily on rim protection, he's forced to do more work on the perimeter this season and guard multiple guys at the same time, which ultimately hurts his defense stats. all due to us losing favors and replacing his minutes with bad defenders such as bojan and niang who would rely heavily on rudy to save their lives.

so despite tonight's win, i still view dallas as a bad matchup for us given the number of offensive weapons they have available to really work rudy on the perimeter and the inability of our perimeter defenders to keep up. we can't really expect rudy to consistently pull off that last play on a nightly basis. whenever rudy is drawn out of the paint to contest porzingis, finney smith, kleber, etc, they basically will have an clear path to take all the way to the basketball cuz we got nobody behind to step up and challenge. just in this game, we've seen at least 10 possessions in which doncic just drove to the basket completely unimpeded cuz rudy wasn't there. just way too easy. stuff like that will not work in our favor in a 7 game series.


Question... in the playoffs do we still get to have Rudy on our team? If yes I ain’t scared... just watched that mother effer bully that whole team and carry us to victory. We have more weapons than them and create mismatches that make things tough on them too.

I also think Dallas’ defense is suspect and Quin would expose them.
 
Question... in the playoffs do we still get to have Rudy on our team? If yes I ain’t scared... just watched that mother effer bully that whole team and carry us to victory. We have more weapons than them and create mismatches that make things tough on them too.

I also think Dallas’ defense is suspect and Quin would expose them.
rudy can't guard 3 guys at the same time consistently though, and we barely won this game cuz of that play. that is my concern. like even though he's shown us moments like those, his defense stats still have gone down as a whole from the last two seasons. the man needs more help on the defensive end. he can't do it all by himself.
 
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