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Healthiest countries in the world.... USA ranks 35th

One Brow said:
I spent over 7 years working for Southern Illinois Healthcare Foundation and Touchette Regional Hospital. As, respectively, a chain of FQHCs and a safety net hospital, our primary clientele were the impoverished, the undocumented, the homeless, etc. I would run reports on who had insurance and their reported income levels.

I will repeat this again, so hopefully you will engage with it rather than dismiss it. When you talk about whose health insurance you don't want to help cover, you should remember it:

You're already on the hook for the healthcare coverage impoverished, the unempolyable, the the undocumented immigrants, and the downright irresponsible. That's what Medicaid and the 330 programs cover.

The people without health insurance are the ones working 50+ hours at two different minimum wage jobs. Those are the people you are spitting upon and whom you don't think deserve any help.
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Lol 50 hours a week and can't afford insurance? Thars 100 hours a week. That's around $700 dollars a week at minimum wage and the can't put at least 1/7 of that weekly wage towards insurance?

With more jobs than people maybe they should find a better job. Minimum wage is for high school kids not adults.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Lol 50 hours a week and can't afford insurance? Thars 100 hours a week. That's around $700 dollars a week at minimum wage and the can't put at least 1/7 of that weekly wage towards insurance?
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Some people have kids. Some have parents that need care, or siblings. Some are trying to pay off college debt. I don't think your laughs provide much assistance.
 
One Brow said:
I spent over 7 years working for Southern Illinois Healthcare Foundation and Touchette Regional Hospital. As, respectively, a chain of FQHCs and a safety net hospital, our primary clientele were the impoverished, the undocumented, the homeless, etc. I would run reports on who had insurance and their reported income levels.

I will repeat this again, so hopefully you will engage with it rather than dismiss it. When you talk about whose health insurance you don't want to help cover, you should remember it:

You're already on the hook for the healthcare coverage impoverished, the unempolyable, the the undocumented immigrants, and the downright irresponsible. That's what Medicaid and the 330 programs cover.

The people without health insurance are the ones working 50+ hours at two different minimum wage jobs. Those are the people you are spitting upon and whom you don't think deserve any help.
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I started my current job at $10 an hour and could afford insurance. 4 years later I'm making a comfortable living and have upped new employees to $12. Not fantastic but they are getting along fine.
 
One Brow said:
Some people have kids. Some have parents that need care, or siblings. Some are trying to pay off college debt. I don't think your laughs provide much assistance.
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The great thing about America is you can do anything you put your mind to. No matter who or where you come from.
 
One Brow said:
Some people have kids. Some have parents that need care, or siblings. Some are trying to pay off college debt. I don't think your laughs provide much assistance.
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Some have pre-existing conditions...

We seem to be talking about two separate issues here.

@JazzyFresh appears to want health care to be merit based. Where only those who can afford it can receive it. Those who can’t or decide against it, won’t receive it.

This makes horrible economic sense and only drives prices up higher.

@JazzyFresh Also argues against single payer systems for economic reasons. However, if the real concern is economics, then a government regulated single payer system is the best most efficient health care delivery system around. Everyone pays into the system, everyone receives care, and the government regulates prices.

So we need to decide first:

a. What do we value most? Is health care a commodity like cotton candy or plasma TVs? Or is it a right like education and law enforcement?
b. Do we want the most expensive and inefficient health care system in the world? Or do we value efficiency?

Only those who don’t understand health care systems think we can treat health care as a commodity and give it to those who deserve it and then bitch about costs.
 
The Thriller said:
Don’t you work at a grocery store? Is that really what you want to do with your life? That’s what you’ve put your mind to?
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I work and manage retail(major hardware store) and I am 100% content with my life. I work my *** off and take pride in my job but my work doesn't define me.

If I wanted to change I have every opportunity to. America is a fantastic place and the possibilities are endless for anyone that wants to better themselves.

Sadly we have people who think it should all just be handed to them on a silver platter. A generation (mine to today's) of lazy entitled a holes.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I work and manage retail(major hardware store) and I am 100% content with my life. I work my *** off and take pride in my job but my work doesn't define me.

If I wanted to change I have every opportunity to. America is a fantastic place and the possibilities are endless for anyone that wants to better themselves.

Sadly we have people who think it should all just be handed to them on a silver platter. A generation (mine to today's) of lazy entitled a holes.
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And yet I’m willing to bet that I make twice as much as you and between my wife and I, make 4-5 times as much as you. I feel like we work our asses off too. Why should my hard earned insurance premiums go to pay towards your health insurance (if we actually shared insurance plans)? Why should I pay for your social security? Don’t you aspire to be anything more than a worker at your current place of employment?

Making a career out of working at the local Lowe’s where you provide me with nails, paint, and fertilizer may seem as foolish to me as you think those working two part time jobs to make ends meet do to you.

It’s so easy to demean those who make less than you. So maybe try to empathize with others more?

* I have great respect for people who work in grocery stores, department stores, and restaurants. If that’s what they want to do with their life more power to them. I recognize how fortunate I’ve had it in my life yet also believe everyone should be entitled to health care. It’s the moral and economically correct decision. I wouldn’t think about withholding health care because I felt like they didn’t deserve it.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
And I'm 100% happy with my current healthcare and think it's ridiculous that I'm going to be on the hook for free loaders healthcare, unemployed people's healthcare, illegals(bless their souls) healthcare and downright irresponsible people.
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You already are on the hook for those people.

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The Thriller said:
And yet I’m willing to bet that I make twice as much as you and between my wife and I, make 4-5 times as much as you. I feel like we work our asses off too. Why should my hard earned insurance premiums go to pay towards your health insurance (if we actually shared insurance plans)? Why should I pay for your social security? Don’t you aspire to be anything more than a worker at your current place of employment?

Making a career out of working at the local Lowe’s where you provide me with nails, paint, and fertilizer may seem as foolish to me as you think those working two part time jobs to make ends meet do to you.

It’s so easy to demean those who make less than you. So maybe try to empathize with others more?

* I have great respect for people who work in grocery stores, department stores, and restaurants. If that’s what they want to do with their life more power to them. I recognize how fortunate I’ve had it in my life yet also believe everyone should be entitled to health care. It’s the moral and economically correct decision. I wouldn’t think about withholding health care because I felt like they didn’t deserve it.
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You shouldn't. That's what I'm saying. I pay my insurance, I pay my premiums. I pay into MY retirement and a failing social security.

And I couldn't care less what you think of us peasants, personally. I actually loathe the flat out hate you have shown towards uneducated white people on multiple occasions. ******** on your claims of respect, you have nothing but talk down to these people since I've been here.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I started my current job at $10 an hour and could afford insurance. 4 years later I'm making a comfortable living and have upped new employees to $12. Not fantastic but they are getting along fine.
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With how many kids? How much college debt? What percentage of that insurance was supplemented by your employer?

You're just another guy born on second base who thinks he hit a triple.
 
fishonjazz said:
They basically cut away and removed some muscles in each eye and re-attached them in a different location. She had one eye that would wander a bit and this surgery should correct that.
Poor girls eyes are bright red right now and hurt. Discharging bloody tears. She is squinting a lot. But the surgery went well and she has been doing great! She is really good about not rubbing her eyes (dont want to tear the stitches out of the incisions) and she is recovering pretty good. Supposed to be about a week to 10 days before she is fully recovered.
I wish i didn't have to work while she recovers so I could take care of her the whole time.
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Hope your kiddo is doing good mate. Had the same thing when i was her age. Usually comes up well these days.
 
Douchebag K said:
Hope your kiddo is doing good mate. Had the same thing when i was her age. Usually comes up well these days.
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That's good to hear. Doctor says everything that's happening with her so far is normal but I sure hate it. Swollen eyes. The whites are all red. One eyes seems to be looking inward too much.
Doctor says that all ok so far and should fix itself soon

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