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infection said:
The first couple minutes of the Ainge interview I believe pretty well encapsulate my assessment. He talks about how they were going to be drafting second (pre-lottery) and were looking at taking Durant, but then they got bumped back to 5th and it opened the door to trading for Ray Allen and subsequently KG, winning them a championship. He's had a couple times where things have fallen out of the sky that worked favorably, and I believe his approach is to "just be in the right position" for when something falls out of the sky. It can certainly happen, but I think it bends more toward the outlier end of the spectrum rather than somewhere within a normal distribution.
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Yeah and in addition, he has trolled reporters over and over about questions regarding "the plan". I'm now 100% sure he genuinely believes that making any long term strategies that you commit to and try to force into reality is not the right way to build a championship team. Instead its minor tinkering and opportunism, paired with being active and vigilant. Take care of your cap, assets and do smart business decissions on the roster.

If that is true then that also essentially means that a deep tank in 2024-25 will only happen if we manage to get kings ransom from Lauri/Sexton.
Also roster upgrades will only happen if A) its the right guy to invest big in or B) if we get good guys on discount prices.

So as fans we have to prepare for everything and expect nothing at the same time. That is THE PLAN.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Ahhh no one listens to him anyways. It’s like what I told my dad who is long winded. When I was young and he caught me doing something stupid he’d spend 5-10 min lecturing me. Well if I talked back. He’d yell at me forever so I just learned to tune him out. Now whenever he’s talking to me in the present after a min or two I only hear whaa whaaa whaaaaa.
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That's how it is with my wife's mom

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HermanG said:
Yeah and in addition, he has trolled reporters over and over about questions regarding "the plan". I'm now 100% sure he genuinely believes that making any long term strategies that you commit to and try to force into reality is not the right way to build a championship team. Instead its minor tinkering and opportunism, paired with being active and vigilant. Take care of your cap, assets and do smart business decissions on the roster.

If that is true then that also essentially means that a deep tank in 2024-25 will only happen if we manage to get kings ransom from Lauri/Sexton.
Also roster upgrades will only happen if A) its the right guy to invest big in or B) if we get good guys on discount prices.

So as fans we have to prepare for everything and expect nothing at the same time. That is THE PLAN.
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Good post

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infection said:
The first couple minutes of the Ainge interview I believe pretty well encapsulate my assessment. He talks about how they were going to be drafting second (pre-lottery) and were looking at taking Durant, but then they got bumped back to 5th and it opened the door to trading for Ray Allen and subsequently KG, winning them a championship. He's had a couple times where things have fallen out of the sky that worked favorably, and I believe his approach is to "just be in the right position" for when something falls out of the sky. It can certainly happen, but I think it bends more toward the outlier end of the spectrum rather than somewhere within a normal distribution.
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So well said infection. Ainge got lucky in multiple ways in Boston. Hope it works again but I would rather have a legit plan.
 
Ainge justified waiting to tank because they "almost" had someone where it would have been better to have those vets than not.? If you justify keeping vets because you want them around a star you traded for, it would logically follow that a team in absence of those vets is not a good situation for an incoming star.

I don't think this necessarily means we are not looking for a star trade anymore, it's clear that Ainge wants that (or wants to pretend he's close), but I don't think we will make any marginal moves. That's probably why we weren't in on DJ. We will keep churning/tanking until we find that trade....not sure that's ever going to become available. I actually think that our chances of getting a star, even with Lauri on the team, will come from the draft.
 
Lots of exit interviews today:

Keyonte
- says he took advantage of everyday, wants to continue to get better
- takes advice from vets (CP3 and Mitchell mentioned)
- Body language is key, emotional intelligence is important to improve on
- Wants to improve defense

Kessler
- Struggled with confidence this year
- Learning to deal with ups and downs
- Wants to improve his body
- Losing was difficult

Hendricks
- Ups and downs but season went "great"
- Had doubts if he belonged, got over it
- Lives here in Utah with his mom
- Working on ability with ball in hands + strength
- Defense/level of competition is biggest difference
- Says he's a wing that can play as a big
- Improved footwork on jumper

Brice
- G-League was good for him, was a long year
- Wants to cut down a little weight, improve on ability to give max effort all the time
- Still adjusting to new role, also making adjustments to his shot form

Collins
- Sums up season as "progression" - talking about the team as a whole
- Biggest area of growth has been playmaking, a result of having different types of guards
- Hardy wants him to become a more complete basketball player

Sexton
- It was good season, glad to stay healthy
- Next step is progress as a playmaker
- Goal is to be efficient, cites FG%
- Wants tom improve in off ball situations
- Pushes himself hard during off season
- Jazz have winning culture

THT
- Up and down season, theme of the day
- Wants to improve efficiency
- Felt like he was playing his best basketball in December. Got hurt, didn’t get a chance to return to form.

Clarkson
- Team want to win, season was a letdown....but it's cool
- Had to develop into a playmaker more than ever
- Wants his legacy to be the best 6th man in Jazz history
- Rookies have good potential, just need to find their role
- Keeps talking about winning 6th man of the year again
- Hardy is doing more work with the players this year

Lauri
- Excited about hockey team
- Hasn't met with FO yet, but he wants to win and they know that
- Understands it's a business (in regards to tanktopia)
- Dodges questions about extension, says he likes it here


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KqWIN said:
Lots of exit interviews today:

Keyonte
- says he took advantage of everyday, wants to continue to get better
- takes advice from vets (CP3 and Mitchell mentioned)
- Body language is key, emotional intelligence is important to improve on
- Wants to improve defense

Kessler
- Struggled with confidence this year
- Learning to deal with ups and downs
- Wants to improve his body
- Losing was difficult

Hendricks
- Ups and downs but season went "great"
- Had doubts if he belonged, got over it
- Lives here in Utah with his mom
- Working on ability with ball in hands + strength
- Defense/level of competition is biggest difference
- Says he's a wing that can play as a big
- Improved footwork on jumper

Brice
- G-League was good for him, was a long year
- Wants to cut down a little weight, improve on ability to give max effort all the time
- Still adjusting to new role, also making adjustments to his shot form

Collins
- Sums up season as "progression" - talking about the team as a whole
- Biggest area of growth has been playmaking, a result of having different types of guards
- Hardy wants him to become a more complete basketball player

Sexton
- It was good season, glad to stay healthy
- Next step is progress as a playmaker
- Goal is to be efficient, cites FG%
- Wants tom improve in off ball situations
- Pushes himself hard during off season
- Jazz have winning culture

THT
- Up and down season, theme of the day
- Wants to improve efficiency
- Felt like he was playing his best basketball in December. Got hurt, didn’t get a chance to return to form.

Clarkson
- Team want to win, season was a letdown....but it's cool
- Had to develop into a playmaker more than ever
- Wants his legacy to be the best 6th man in Jazz history
- Rookies have good potential, just need to find their role
- Keeps talking about winning 6th man of the year again
- Hardy is doing more work with the players this year

Lauri
- Excited about hockey team
- Hasn't met with FO yet, but he wants to win and they know that
- Understands it's a business (in regards to tanktopia)
- Dodges questions about extension, says he likes it here


Dunn
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Thanks for posting this. The rookies are certainly saying the right things. Let’s hope they’ll also act on it. Kind of cute that Taylor lives in Utah with his mom.
 
"Up and down season" was the theme for everyone. Each player was a total pro about talking about the half tank season. Lauri seemed the most annoyed by the question, but that's because he's pressed on it the most.

Sexton exudes energy. I wish someone asked him a question about how he sees his role and his place on the team going forward. I think the quick hook on him was one of the more odd stories about this season.

THT was the only player who showed some salt, but even then he was professional and I think his gripe was actually valid. He did get the short end of the stick. I think he lied about not knowing when he was going to play in the second half the season though.
 
KqWIN said:
Lots of exit interviews today:

Keyonte
- says he took advantage of everyday, wants to continue to get better
- takes advice from vets (CP3 and Mitchell mentioned)
- Body language is key, emotional intelligence is important to improve on
- Wants to improve defense

Kessler
- Struggled with confidence this year
- Learning to deal with ups and downs
- Wants to improve his body
- Losing was difficult

Hendricks
- Ups and downs but season went "great"
- Had doubts if he belonged, got over it
- Lives here in Utah with his mom
- Working on ability with ball in hands + strength
- Defense/level of competition is biggest difference
- Says he's a wing that can play as a big
- Improved footwork on jumper

Brice
- G-League was good for him, was a long year
- Wants to cut down a little weight, improve on ability to give max effort all the time
- Still adjusting to new role, also making adjustments to his shot form

Collins
- Sums up season as "progression" - talking about the team as a whole
- Biggest area of growth has been playmaking, a result of having different types of guards
- Hardy wants him to become a more complete basketball player

Sexton
- It was good season, glad to stay healthy
- Next step is progress as a playmaker
- Goal is to be efficient, cites FG%
- Wants tom improve in off ball situations
- Pushes himself hard during off season
- Jazz have winning culture

THT
- Up and down season, theme of the day
- Wants to improve efficiency
- Felt like he was playing his best basketball in December. Got hurt, didn’t get a chance to return to form.

Clarkson
- Team want to win, season was a letdown....but it's cool
- Had to develop into a playmaker more than ever
- Wants his legacy to be the best 6th man in Jazz history
- Rookies have good potential, just need to find their role
- Keeps talking about winning 6th man of the year again
- Hardy is doing more work with the players this year

Lauri
- Excited about hockey team
- Hasn't met with FO yet, but he wants to win and they know that
- Understands it's a business (in regards to tanktopia)
- Dodges questions about extension, says he likes it here


Dunn
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Seems like I'm going to need to listen to the Lauri one. Thanks for posting all of these.
 
infection said:
The first couple minutes of the Ainge interview I believe pretty well encapsulate my assessment. He talks about how they were going to be drafting second (pre-lottery) and were looking at taking Durant, but then they got bumped back to 5th and it opened the door to trading for Ray Allen and subsequently KG, winning them a championship. He's had a couple times where things have fallen out of the sky that worked favorably, and I believe his approach is to "just be in the right position" for when something falls out of the sky. It can certainly happen, but I think it bends more toward the outlier end of the spectrum rather than somewhere within a normal distribution.
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I agree with this in part, but it’s definitely being overstated - ESPECIALLY the KG stuff, which did not in any way fall out of the sky.

Ainge is deeply strategic, including long term strategic plans. This is a good read:

www.si.com

Behind the scenes: How Boston landed KG and formed Big 3

Eight years ago today, the Celtics landed Kevin Garnett and formed Boston's Big 3. Here's how it happened.
www.si.com www.si.com
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I don’t see any way that he’s a wing. Doesn’t have wing skills. Hes a stretch smallish big
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Would you say Royce O'Neal was a wing for us?

3 and D doesn't require wing skills other than shooting.
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fishonjazz said:
Would you say Royce O'Neal was a wing for us?

3 and D doesn't require wing skills other than shooting.
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Yep. Wing for me simply means being capable of guarding perimeter players and floating around the perimeter offensively. Obviously there are different levels of wings but that is kind of the minimum standard for me and Taylor is able to hit that as a sf.
 
The more quotes or rehashing I hear from the Ainge presser I'm starting to be convinced that if we can't find something we want to buy early in the offseason or maybe even by the draft... that we might end up being a seller. I think the preference is to buy but its not a mandate.
 
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