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Kamala Harris for Pres

Bucknutz said:
There is a reason she has the lowest approval rate among democrats. There is a reason she is polling lower than Trump, nationally and in states.
She is lacking inspiration , persuasiveness and personality. I keep saying this.

Basic question here:

Would you rather have Pete or Kamala to lead your business of Government? Who would inspire you as leader more Pete or Kamala?

I keep hearing Kamala isn’t my first choice but…
But what? If she is not the democrats first choice, why would it be for independents, cross overs or conservative liberals? Just because she is the Democrats nominee everyone will just get behind her?
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The attacks that stuck in a democratic primary in 2019 from the left side aren't going to hold water in comparison to hogs in a general election. Also, give the current polls two weeks to a month to catch up. I predict she's going to roll.

Pete gets a lot of love here but I don't like him. He's a Neo-liberal who has expressed anti-labor preferences, basically a young and gay Mitt Romney. I'd probably take Momala over Pete, personally. There are a handful of Dems I would take over her but they weren't realistic options.
 
Safetydan said:
What do you think Utah would look like if we got 100% turnout. Or, even better, Texas or Florida.
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Or California and New York.

The electoral college is stupid. It makes so so many votes not count.

If you went by popular vote then suddenly blue states wouldn't be nearly as blue and red states wouldn't be nearly as red.



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Bucknutz said:
Again,final time, I’ll explain my view.

1. I’m not for Trump
2. I’m advocating for a better option for the Democratic nominee.
3. I don’t believe Kamala has what it takes to beat Trump.
4. I don’t care who is POTUS is. I’m rooting for a slit congress.

Never Trump was strong 4 years ago. I don’t believe it has enough energy this cycle and if that is why most people are voting for her on this politics forum, you think average people with little enthusiasm for politics are going to rush out to an uninspiring candidate with limited personalty?

Democrats have a real opportunity right now and I believe they are wasting on Kamala.

Yeah, I will vote for RFK over Kamala and Trump. If I had a conversation with these 3 candidates, I would get an actual real conversation out of him, with depth in many topics. Same with Pete. I won’t get that with the others.

Yeah I will take her:

View: https://x.com/itismarkharris/status/1808528833118707819?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/jacobyusufov/status/1506016689154146306?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/mayoralpodcast/status/1796160610410897425?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/beinlibertarian/status/1808222023291662359?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/joshua__dm/status/1636507678997467137?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


She is so inspiring!

Again, the only reason the left are trying to promote her is because their overlords choose her. Since the left is an ideological cult, the left now has to defend her at all costs. I wouldn’t be saying these things if it was a better candidate.
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You just need to envision what can be, unburdened by what has been.
 
Bucknutz said:
It is, Biden should do something about it.

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He should do something about the permanent tax cuts for the rich? The definition of permanent makes this seem very difficult to do.

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Bucknutz said:
Again,final time, I’ll explain my view.

1. I’m not for Trump
2. I’m advocating for a better option for the Democratic nominee.
3. I don’t believe Kamala has what it takes to beat Trump.
4. I don’t care who is POTUS is. I’m rooting for a slit congress.

Never Trump was strong 4 years ago. I don’t believe it has enough energy this cycle and if that is why most people are voting for her on this politics forum, you think average people with little enthusiasm for politics are going to rush out to an uninspiring candidate with limited personalty?

Democrats have a real opportunity right now and I believe they are wasting on Kamala.

Yeah, I will vote for RFK over Kamala and Trump. If I had a conversation with these 3 candidates, I would get an actual real conversation out of him, with depth in many topics. Same with Pete. I won’t get that with the others.

Yeah I will take her:

View: https://x.com/itismarkharris/status/1808528833118707819?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/jacobyusufov/status/1506016689154146306?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/mayoralpodcast/status/1796160610410897425?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/beinlibertarian/status/1808222023291662359?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/joshua__dm/status/1636507678997467137?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


She is so inspiring!

Again, the only reason the left are trying to promote her is because their overlords choose her. Since the left is an ideological cult, the left now has to defend her at all costs. I wouldn’t be saying these things if it was a better candidate.
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I think never trump is stronger than it was in 2016 or 2020. I mean it would have to be right? He still has all the same baggage, scandal, and corruption he had in 16 and 20 but then he added a whole bunch more on top of the already giant pile throughout his presidency and the aftermath of his presidency.
He is just older and more scandalous and corrupt now than at any other point in time


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Bucknutz said:
There is a reason she has the lowest approval rate among democrats. There is a reason she is polling lower than Trump, nationally and in states.
She is lacking inspiration , persuasiveness and personality. I keep saying this.

Basic question here:

Would you rather have Pete or Kamala to lead your business of Government? Who would inspire you as leader more Pete or Kamala?

I keep hearing Kamala isn’t my first choice but…
But what? If she is not the democrats first choice, why would it be for independents, cross overs or conservative liberals? Just because she is the Democrats nominee everyone will just get behind her?
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I think part of why she is polling so low and is so poorly liked is because most people don't know much about her and have never really heard from her.

I saw her speak for the first time just a couple days ago (maybe it was yesterday) and was very impressed.

She has a great opportunity to go upwards in popularity.

My guess is right now is her lowest point. Or she will fall flat on her face. Idk

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fishonjazz said:
I think part of why she is polling so low and is so poorly liked is because most people don't know much about her and have never really heard from her.

I saw her speak for the first time just a couple days ago (maybe it was yesterday) and was very impressed.

She has a great opportunity to go upwards in popularity.

My guess is right now is her lowest point. Or she will fall flat on her face. Idk

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An opportunity for sure. They could still fumble hard. You can't rule it out since, they are Democrats after all.
 
This article says that Harris is polling against trump better than any other Democrat. Fwiw (I don't think polls are worth much. Not sure I have even heard of someone say that they participated in any of these polls)

www.yahoo.com

New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Kamala Harris has a huge head start for the Democratic nomination — and the strongest numbers against Trump

Harris ties Trump in a hypothetical matchup, 46% to 46%. Other Democrats trail by several points.
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Trump vs. Harris
As for the general election, Harris (46%) is currently tied with Trump (46%) among registered voters in a hypothetical matchup. Immediately before withdrawing, Biden (45%) was tied with Trump (45%) as well.

But compared to the president, Harris performs three points better among women, seven points better among Americans aged 18 to 29, seven points better among independents, eight points better among Black Americans and 13 points better among those who view both Biden and Trump unfavorably (so-called “double haters”). (These groups have small sample sizes and therefore larger margins of error than the survey as a whole.)

Room to grow?
For Biden — and Trump — the corresponding number is just 6%. Harris’s unfavorable rating (51%) is lower than theirs as well (58% and 53%, respectively). Minds are made up, in other words, about the two presidents. Impressions of Harris are a little less set in stone. In the weeks and months ahead, that’s likely to change. Harris’s job is to change it for the better.


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Bucknutz said:
Again,final time, I’ll explain my view.

1. I’m not for Trump
2. I’m advocating for a better option for the Democratic nominee.
3. I don’t believe Kamala has what it takes to beat Trump.
4. I don’t care who is POTUS is. I’m rooting for a slit congress.

Never Trump was strong 4 years ago. I don’t believe it has enough energy this cycle and if that is why most people are voting for her on this politics forum, you think average people with little enthusiasm for politics are going to rush out to an uninspiring candidate with limited personalty?

Democrats have a real opportunity right now and I believe they are wasting on Kamala.

Yeah, I will vote for RFK over Kamala and Trump. If I had a conversation with these 3 candidates, I would get an actual real conversation out of him, with depth in many topics. Same with Pete. I won’t get that with the others.

Yeah I will take her:

View: https://x.com/itismarkharris/status/1808528833118707819?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/jacobyusufov/status/1506016689154146306?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ



View: https://x.com/mayoralpodcast/status/1796160610410897425?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ




She is so inspiring!

Again, the only reason the left are trying to promote her is because their overlords choose her. Since the left is an ideological cult, the left now has to defend her at all costs. I wouldn’t be saying these things if it was a better candidate.
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I mean......
 
Bucknutz said:
Not voting for Trump, already stated.

1. Trump is not a Nazi, and calling him one waters down the real definition of a Nazi from 80 years ago.

2. Most of the posters here and any never Trumper’s will downplay most of his achievements:
1. Tax rates that benefits both individuals and companies
2. Reformed the criminal justice system
3. Take down of ISIS
4. Operations Warpspeed
5. Border crossings
6. Dropping prices of prescription drugs - executive orders
7. Middle East peace
Just to name a few…

3. Trump got to pick the judges because the Democrats put out a terrible candidate with no personality. They are putting out another terrible candidate with even less personality, less experience and almost no accomplishments other than her time as DA.

I’m not going to vote for him, but Kamala is the worst option the left could have pushed.

Why RFK over Kamala for me?
1. Genuine
2. Depth of issues
3. Can actually speak and have an off the script conversation
4. Understands what it takes to work with both parties.
5. Not in a tribe.

Easy choice with reasons.

Listening to One speech for many, just changes their opinion overnight and now are fully on board with a terrible candidate. Forget everything else.
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Listening to one speech did change my opinion. She was relaxed and confident and made it clear that her priority is taking down Trump by calling him a predator, . She went off script comfortably and came across as compassionate and grateful, especially towards Joe; but to her campaign team and others too. Most importantly as far as winning in my opinion, she was likable, which was a pleasant surprise. She nailed it.
 
Why is he even mentioning not agreeing to it? I'll tell you why, HE'S SCARED!


"Trump also said he was open to debating her in September, when he was originally due to face Biden on ABC News.

"I haven't agreed to anything,” he said. “I agreed to a debate with Joe Biden. But I want to debate her. She'll be no different."
 
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