At 11:00 is a good example of the footwork I'm surprised he has. That's a pretty high level post move and super savvy in that situation for an 18 year old "raw" player.
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Nothing new here on Tre Johnson, but I have to admit, seeing it all together makes me slightly lower on him:
View: https://youtu.be/jXZCEWBFZjU?si=498-JLDsnbfVsth0
View: https://youtu.be/jXZCEWBFZjU?si=498-JLDsnbfVsth0
2hrs, I'll have to watch in shifts.
I do appreciate the scouting videos that show both the good and bad.
I'm sold. I love his ability to create his own space, something the Jazz don't have right now, and I love his ability to score all over the floor. He also plays at full speed. He'll be the perfect complement to whomever the Jazz get next year with another top 5-7 pick.
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I just don't think I can get on board with the Jazz taking someone who projects to be at best, "passable" on defense.
You're getting the Devin Booker, Brad Beal, Khris Middleton archetype. Passable defense is what you get in return for a weapon scorer. The Jazz don't have this level of talent on their roster. Tre should put up some 35-pt nights. But I get it, defensive potential is why most people have Ace Bailey rated higher.
Passable defense at best. More likely it will be a significant weakness. That's just not how I want the Jazz to build their team.
He defends better than Keyonte, Clarkson or Brice, if that makes you feel better. Jazz will have Walker and Hendricks on the floor. That'll help.
That might archetype, but that’s also the top percentile outcome. Wayyyy more likely to be a Hield than a Booker.
I actually think don’t think he is good at creating space. He creates space can get his jumper off, but he has to shoot so many tough jumpers because he can’t beat guys off the dribble. Maybe that’s semantics, but guy who can beat his man off the dribble has no problems finding his jumper.
What bothers me about Tre is that while his highlights look cool with incredible shots being made it also doubles as a reel of him being unable to get good shots. When I watched him play full games, I got the same vibe.
Tre is an A+ shooting prospect (which is still important obviously), but an underwhelming prospect otherwise.
Lol, doesn't make me feel better. And I actually think there is a chance he is worse than any of those 3, as inconceivable as that might sound.
I disagree. I think he's going to be pretty good off the dribble. He gets to his jumper because he believes in it. He's much more mobile, athletic and quick than Buddy Hield. He also shoots with a quicker release.
He's also a quantifiably better prospect coming out of college than Beal.
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I am a big fan of Beringer. He is very mobile for a 6'11" guy, looks great defensively, has shown slight flashes of offensive skill, and he is relatively new to basketball.
There is some big time potential with this guy.
For those interested in his basketball history.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/even...o-projected-first-round-draft-pick-in-3-years
There is some big time potential with this guy.
For those interested in his basketball history.
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/even...o-projected-first-round-draft-pick-in-3-years
Yeah sorry, that is inconceivable.
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Funny. I watched the highlight video posted and was going to say his shot and body remind me of Sensabaugh
Shooting off the dribble, maybe, but his ability to attack the basket off the dribble is not there. Pull-up jumpers look cool, they generally do not produce efficient offense.
Also? Hard disagree on Beal. Beal got to the rim and free throw line at a much higher rate which is why he was more efficient even though that was 10+ years ago. His peripheral stats were significantly better with way more stocks and more than double the rebounds. While Tre was a better shooter, Beal had his bases covered for all of the concerns I have about Tre. He is quantifiably better only if you don't quantify everything.
Long thread on Noah Penda, tough defensive wing with enough offense to contribute a bit.
View: https://x.com/azmatlanba/status/1916138599189262577
View: https://x.com/azmatlanba/status/1916138599189262577
And defends. Dude will be a high level contributor in the league for 15 years
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Video is split up into sections:
0:14 Shot Attempts
34:26 Rebounds
55:15 Defense
Back half of the video looks to be all defense. Someone can correct if I missed a section or 2.
His offensive footwork looks good (if a bit awkward on occasion) even if the finish is sometimes suspect. I like the willingness to try some of those moves.
Would like to think that it will look smoother and that he will finish better with more experience.
Yeah, I like how he plays with an even keel and has a mental toughness about him. It comes through in his clean decision-making and execution, but mental toughness is a highly underrated trait in trying to project young players.