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2025 Playoffs Chat & Chill Thread

Coach Ellis said:
I don’t hate him, but he’s not the guy to build your team around. Pretty sure it would take Lauri to get him, and I’d rather hold out for a great draft asset or just keep him at that point.
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Ya I wouldn't build my team around a guy that barely played either lol.
And if I was trading Lauri for kuminga the trade would look like the one discussed last year where they get Lauri and we get kuminga, moody and like 5 picks.

I was just saying I like him like I like tay Henny. He interests me and I could see him turning into something someday. There is possibly some potential.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I don’t hate him, but he’s not the guy to build your team around. Pretty sure it would take Lauri to get him, and I’d rather hold out for a great draft asset or just keep him at that point.
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I would love to have those Warriors picks in a post Steph era. Those are the great picks I’d be looking for. Kuminga can be the matching salary. It can be a short term, high money deal. He can be the tank commander and get his money opportunity with us. With our luck, he will turn into a good player like Lauri and ruin the tank. Restarting the cycle.

No rule that you have to build your team around him. I like him as a flier and salary matching.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I wouldn't build my team around a guy that barely played either lol.
And if I was trading Lauri for kuminga the trade would look like the one discussed last year where they get Lauri and we get kuminga, moody and like 5 picks.

I was just saying I like him like I like tay Henny. He interests me and I could see him turning into something someday. There is possibly some potential.
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I don’t disagree. I just think the Golden State trade for Lauri ship sailed away when they went out and got Jimmy Butler. I’m not confident that they’ll be that bad once Curry retires either. I fully expect them to be able to reload pretty quickly.

I’d much rather wait to see if there’s better offers for Lauri now that his contract situation is clear. I still think he’ll command a better trade package than what the Warriors can put together if the Jazz are patient.
 
After Tatum injury I'm now rooting for Celtics to steal this series from NYK. Few years ago there was a media narrative that Celtics are better when only 1 of Tatum and Brown is playing, and if Celtics somehow pull the rabbit out of the hat here then that discussion is surely gonna reignite.

Despite my dislike for Celtics... them winning this series would create maximum havoc. NYK especially would be in shambles.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I wouldn't build my team around a guy that barely played either lol.
And if I was trading Lauri for kuminga the trade would look like the one discussed last year where they get Lauri and we get kuminga, moody and like 5 picks.

I was just saying I like him like I like tay Henny. He interests me and I could see him turning into something someday. There is possibly some potential.
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After the recent report that Kerr benched him for looking off Steph multiple times in their game against the Blazers, I want nothing to do with him. Even if he develops into a great offensive player, the kind of mindset you must have to look off the GOAT shooter is a massive red flag.

I want guys who do the right things... at least when the right thing is that freaking obvious.
 
Schrödinger's Gerbil said:
It's not uncommon for teams to experience a few years of playoff flameouts before they break through, while tinkering around the edges, or otherwise keep a core in place. I guess the question is who's the "core" at Cleveland? I say Mitchell and Mobley definitely. Garland and Allen less so. We'll see.

I am very skeptical that any team can win the title with Mitchell as the #1 option. Sooner or later, he'll suck the balance out of the offensive flow and it becomes too Mitchell centric. He's not shown that he can be reliable in this role.
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Plus he plays no defense. Not that he's defensively limited like Steph, he chooses not to play defense, which is severely worse. Steph at least puts in some effort. A player with limited skills who tries will always be preferable to a player with skills who makes no effort. Mitchell is the latter and it will always torpedo the team when the game or series is on the line. At least the player making an effort will be like the blind squirrel who will find a nut now and then. But the player that doesn't try is just purposely avoiding the nuts scattered all around them, when even just picking up one or two of them could make the difference and win the game.
 
It’s kind of fascinating to see two teams in the East that are likely going to make the finals that are unconventional teams built through unconventional means. It’s way harder in the West, but the Jazz should be paying close attention to how these teams go about their business.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Plus he plays no defense. Not that he's defensively limited like Steph, he chooses not to play defense, which is severely worse. Steph at least puts in some effort. A player with limited skills who tries will always be preferable to a player with skills who makes no effort. Mitchell is the latter and it will always torpedo the team when the game or series is on the line. At least the player making an effort will be like the blind squirrel who will find a nut now and then. But the player that doesn't try is just purposely avoiding the nuts scattered all around them, when even just picking up one or two of them could make the difference and win the game.
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Why do I get the feeling you’ve used the squirrel and nuts example with your subordinates before in numerous mentoring sessions?
 
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