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The Thriller
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This is what the right wing anti vax nonsense is doing to us. A third child who would’ve been fine had they been vaccinated, has died.
www.oregonlive.com
3rd measles-related death reported; 2nd child dies in Texas
A spokesperson confirmed the child was unvaccinated and being treated for measles complications. The U.S. now has more than double the number of measles cases it saw in all of 2024, with Texas reporting another large jump in cases and hospitalizations on Friday.
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The Thriller
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View: https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lmxaune3s22h
Weird. What a coincidence.
Is this what maga means?
PJF
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Red
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Always a positive when bs can be corrected….And few sling it more than Jim Jordan. Love how he always has his sleeves rolled up, likes giving the impression that he’s “no nonsense, rolling up his sleeves and working for you!” lol, what an arse…..such a huge phony…
Science's COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.
In the wake of the dramatic news of a potentially effective COVID-19 vaccine, President Donald Trump posted a flurry of tweets that claimed its makers, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and Democrats had conspired to suppress the announcement until after the 3 November presidential election. The U.S. company involved, Pfizer, "didn't have the courage to do it before," Trump asserted on 9 November. And FDA and Democrats, he wrote, "didn't want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later."
Initially, Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech suggested they might have preliminary trial results by late October—a timetable Pfizer's CEO, Albert Bourla, projected as recently as 29 September. The timeline was based on a plan that called for an outside panel to take a first look at the efficacy data for the vaccine when a total of 32 cases of COVID-19 had accumulated in the vaccine and placebo groups. But the companies and FDA later agreed on a protocol change that nearly doubled that number and delayed that review.
There is no evidence, however, that the decision had anything to do with presidential politics. And the companies flat out reject at Trump's claims. "What people believe is their business," Kathrin Jansen, who heads vaccine R&D at Pfizer, told ScienceInsider. "Quite frankly, we had no time and still have no time to deal with politics. We are at this 24/7, thousands of people working diligently to make this work. And for us, it was never about politics, it was always about just the disaster that we were in the middle of, all of us globally, seeing the devastation and the deaths."
Given that Pfizer and BioNTech only described their results in a press release that had scant details beyond the finding that it had greater than 90% efficacy, ScienceInsider followed up with company representatives and other vaccine experts to address some of the confusion surrounding the vaccine.
Science's COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.
In the wake of the dramatic news of a potentially effective COVID-19 vaccine, President Donald Trump posted a flurry of tweets that claimed its makers, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and Democrats had conspired to suppress the announcement until after the 3 November presidential election. The U.S. company involved, Pfizer, "didn't have the courage to do it before," Trump asserted on 9 November. And FDA and Democrats, he wrote, "didn't want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later."
Initially, Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech suggested they might have preliminary trial results by late October—a timetable Pfizer's CEO, Albert Bourla, projected as recently as 29 September. The timeline was based on a plan that called for an outside panel to take a first look at the efficacy data for the vaccine when a total of 32 cases of COVID-19 had accumulated in the vaccine and placebo groups. But the companies and FDA later agreed on a protocol change that nearly doubled that number and delayed that review.
There is no evidence, however, that the decision had anything to do with presidential politics. And the companies flat out reject at Trump's claims. "What people believe is their business," Kathrin Jansen, who heads vaccine R&D at Pfizer, told ScienceInsider. "Quite frankly, we had no time and still have no time to deal with politics. We are at this 24/7, thousands of people working diligently to make this work. And for us, it was never about politics, it was always about just the disaster that we were in the middle of, all of us globally, seeing the devastation and the deaths."
Given that Pfizer and BioNTech only described their results in a press release that had scant details beyond the finding that it had greater than 90% efficacy, ScienceInsider followed up with company representatives and other vaccine experts to address some of the confusion surrounding the vaccine.
PJF
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The Thriller
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Red
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You have to be a very, very unique brand of DUMB and NAIVE, to believe the mRNA Covid vaccines killed more Americans than two world wars and Vietnam combined. To post otherwise, making such asinine claims, without so much as 5 seconds of fact checking is: 1) lazy; 2) grossly irresponsible; 3) deliberately spreading lies for the shear love of “owning the libs”. Screw your own country, who cares, owning libs is all that matters. Respect for truth? That will never happen.
www.techarp.com
ESTIMATED U.S. mRNA SHOT DEATH TOLL: 470,000–600,000
Two independent estimations — one based on VAERS-adjusted data, the other derived from MIT/Florida Dept. of Health study findings — yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 600,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots. The true number is likely much greater.
More than WWI, WWII, and Vietnam COMBINED.
I’m not sure what he meant by “independent estimations” since it looks like that he made both estimates – more on this below.
More importantly, the two “independent estimations” did not show that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines killed more Americans than World War 1, World War 2, and the Vietnam War combined, and here are the reasons why…(read the article, if you believe the foolish claim)
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Low vaccine uptake and waning immunity are two reasons for continued Covid deaths.
abcnews.go.com
Fact Check: Did Vaccines Kill More Than WW1, WW2 & Vietnam? | Tech ARP
Did mRNA COVID-19 vaccines kill more Americans than WW2, WW2, and the Vietnam War combined? Here is our fact check!
www.techarp.com
Truth :
In the video clip, Joe Rogan referred to a post by (archive) Nicolas Hulscher, who said that two “independent estimations” somehow that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines caused 470,0oo to 600,000 American deaths:ESTIMATED U.S. mRNA SHOT DEATH TOLL: 470,000–600,000
Two independent estimations — one based on VAERS-adjusted data, the other derived from MIT/Florida Dept. of Health study findings — yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 600,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots. The true number is likely much greater.
More than WWI, WWII, and Vietnam COMBINED.
I’m not sure what he meant by “independent estimations” since it looks like that he made both estimates – more on this below.
More importantly, the two “independent estimations” did not show that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines killed more Americans than World War 1, World War 2, and the Vietnam War combined, and here are the reasons why…(read the article, if you believe the foolish claim)
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Low vaccine uptake and waning immunity are two reasons for continued Covid deaths.
Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from COVID every week?
Last month, an average of about 350 people died each week from COVID, according to data from the CDC. With available vaccines and treatments, why are people still dying?
abcnews.go.com
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The Thriller
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I know a lot of Americans voted for the teevee president last November because the media told them that eggs were too expensive and that Trump would be great for rating and entertainment. But I for one would like to have a regular economy, foreign policy that aligns with our western allies, and vaccines. Now we won’t have a flu covid vaccine anytime soon because stupid voters empowered a lunatic like Kennedy.
This sucks
www.reuters.com
Remember, if happy brown lady had won last November, your 401k wouldn’t have been damaged by a mindless trade war, Ukraine would be supported (and Putin’s *** wouldn’t be licked by Trump), and you’d likely have a flu/covid combo shot approved soon. Nice job stupid people! Take a bow!
This sucks
Moderna pulls application for COVID-flu combination shot
Moderna said on Wednesday it has withdrawn an application seeking approval for its flu and COVID combination vaccine candidate to wait for efficacy data from a late-stage trial of its influenza shot, which is due later this year.
www.reuters.com
Remember, if happy brown lady had won last November, your 401k wouldn’t have been damaged by a mindless trade war, Ukraine would be supported (and Putin’s *** wouldn’t be licked by Trump), and you’d likely have a flu/covid combo shot approved soon. Nice job stupid people! Take a bow!
Mongoose
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Fauci's a lying psychopath that deserves to be in prison.
View: https://x.com/0rf/status/1928551488768585869
View: https://x.com/0rf/status/1928551488768585869
Red
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“Well, we are all going to die”. A Republican saying the quiet part out loud: We do not care if more poor people die. Tax cuts for the wealthy is worth it.
www.motherjones.com
The largest Medicaid cuts in US history, which, if signed into law, would sever healthcare for the poorest Americans in order to offset massive tax cuts for the wealthy, have a curious new defense: “Well, we all are going to die.”
The line emerged on Friday as Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) attempted to defend the cuts before angry constituents during a contentious town hall. It was delivered with a smirk, and then, apparent impatience. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said as the audience gasped.
It is true: Every one of us will indeed perish. But implicit in Ernst’s cavalier response on Friday is that the inevitability of death neutralizes how death comes for us. Jeopardizing health care for the most vulnerable? Why the hell not. Speeding up death for the oldest Americans by making them sicker? Well, we all are going to die.
Of course, the reality is that so much of the death that American society tolerates—our gun epidemic, a lack of universal health care, etc.—is a choice enshrined in our ****** politics. Just take a look at the staggering rise in babies born HIV positive right now, thanks to a similar casual cruelty of Elon Musk.
Ernst’s point is an accidental bedrock of GOP politics. Death does not matter, for certain people, if it means a supposed economic boost to the few.
"Well, we’re all going to die," says Joni Ernst in defense of Medicaid cuts
Joni Ernst's casual cruelty is an accidental bedrock of GOP politics: Death does not matter, for certain people.
www.motherjones.com
The largest Medicaid cuts in US history, which, if signed into law, would sever healthcare for the poorest Americans in order to offset massive tax cuts for the wealthy, have a curious new defense: “Well, we all are going to die.”
The line emerged on Friday as Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) attempted to defend the cuts before angry constituents during a contentious town hall. It was delivered with a smirk, and then, apparent impatience. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said as the audience gasped.
It is true: Every one of us will indeed perish. But implicit in Ernst’s cavalier response on Friday is that the inevitability of death neutralizes how death comes for us. Jeopardizing health care for the most vulnerable? Why the hell not. Speeding up death for the oldest Americans by making them sicker? Well, we all are going to die.
Of course, the reality is that so much of the death that American society tolerates—our gun epidemic, a lack of universal health care, etc.—is a choice enshrined in our ****** politics. Just take a look at the staggering rise in babies born HIV positive right now, thanks to a similar casual cruelty of Elon Musk.
Ernst’s point is an accidental bedrock of GOP politics. Death does not matter, for certain people, if it means a supposed economic boost to the few.
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Red
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I learned of a new RFK Jr. claim reading this article this morning: the game of football does not cause brain injuries! Who knew!
If this claim that Covid vaccines will be pulled from the market is accurate, one more example of the dangers of allowing anti-science nonsense to replace medical expertise in the United States. It really is all about making America stupid again, RFK Jr. a leader in that front, and creating a universally recognized new image for America, one transformed from a symbol of human freedom, to and image of cruelty to undocumented human beings. That effort being led by Stephen Miller. So, under Trump, we present as both stupid and cruel.
The Trump administration will move to pull the COVID vaccine off the U.S. market “within months,” one of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s closest associates has told the Daily Beast.
Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a British cardiologist who has repeatedly claimed in the face of scientific consensus that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus, told the Daily Beast that Kennedy’s stance is shared by “influential” members of President Donald Trump’s family. Like Kennedy himself, no Trumps hold any scientific qualifications.
Malhotra is a leading adviser to the controversial lobby group Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Action, which is seen as an external arm of Kennedy’s agenda as Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary.
He told the Beast that many of those closest to RFK Jr. have told him they “cannot understand” why the vaccine continues to be prescribed, and that a decision to remove the vaccine from the U.S. market pending further research will come “within months,” even if it is likely to cause “fear of chaos” and bring with it major legal ramifications.
“It could [happen] in a number of stages, including learning more about the data,” said Malhotra, who said there was an ongoing review into so-called “vaccine injuries” by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). “But given the increased talk of vaccine injuries in the past few weeks among the administration, it could also come with one clean decision.”
Malhotra said skepticism among Kennedy’s circle of the COVID-19 jab is driven by a 2022 paperby a group of physicians and university professors and researchers, which appeared in the journal Vaccine.
The peer-reviewed paper examined secondary analysis of “serious adverse events reported in… clinical trials of Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in adults,” and said that those given the mRNA vaccines had a 16 percent higher risk of “excess serious adverse events” than those in the placebo group.
However, the study has been dismissed by large parts of the medical community, who say it underestimates the benefits of COVID-19 vaccines and overstates risks due to methodological flaws, biased data selection, and ignoring broader public health impacts.
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The prediction of a drastic move against the COVID vaccine comes after Kennedy canceled $500 million in funding for the development of mRNA vaccines. Such vaccines use a copy of a molecule called messenger RNA (mRNA) to provoke an immune response against certain diseases. They have received much attention since the COVID-19 pandemic, where they served as the basis of the most widely used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
Days after canceling the funding, the HHS secretary—criticized for describing the COVID shot as “the deadliest vaccine ever made”—stated during a press conference his belief that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was dangerous and can cause “injuries” including myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart that can lead to health issues ranging from fatigue to cardiac arrest.
At the same time the scientifically unqualified Kennedy scion wrongly claimed there is no evidence football leads to brain damage.(say what!!!!!)
If this claim that Covid vaccines will be pulled from the market is accurate, one more example of the dangers of allowing anti-science nonsense to replace medical expertise in the United States. It really is all about making America stupid again, RFK Jr. a leader in that front, and creating a universally recognized new image for America, one transformed from a symbol of human freedom, to and image of cruelty to undocumented human beings. That effort being led by Stephen Miller. So, under Trump, we present as both stupid and cruel.
The Trump administration will move to pull the COVID vaccine off the U.S. market “within months,” one of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s closest associates has told the Daily Beast.
Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a British cardiologist who has repeatedly claimed in the face of scientific consensus that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus, told the Daily Beast that Kennedy’s stance is shared by “influential” members of President Donald Trump’s family. Like Kennedy himself, no Trumps hold any scientific qualifications.
Malhotra is a leading adviser to the controversial lobby group Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Action, which is seen as an external arm of Kennedy’s agenda as Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary.
He told the Beast that many of those closest to RFK Jr. have told him they “cannot understand” why the vaccine continues to be prescribed, and that a decision to remove the vaccine from the U.S. market pending further research will come “within months,” even if it is likely to cause “fear of chaos” and bring with it major legal ramifications.
“It could [happen] in a number of stages, including learning more about the data,” said Malhotra, who said there was an ongoing review into so-called “vaccine injuries” by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). “But given the increased talk of vaccine injuries in the past few weeks among the administration, it could also come with one clean decision.”
Malhotra said skepticism among Kennedy’s circle of the COVID-19 jab is driven by a 2022 paperby a group of physicians and university professors and researchers, which appeared in the journal Vaccine.
The peer-reviewed paper examined secondary analysis of “serious adverse events reported in… clinical trials of Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in adults,” and said that those given the mRNA vaccines had a 16 percent higher risk of “excess serious adverse events” than those in the placebo group.
However, the study has been dismissed by large parts of the medical community, who say it underestimates the benefits of COVID-19 vaccines and overstates risks due to methodological flaws, biased data selection, and ignoring broader public health impacts.
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The prediction of a drastic move against the COVID vaccine comes after Kennedy canceled $500 million in funding for the development of mRNA vaccines. Such vaccines use a copy of a molecule called messenger RNA (mRNA) to provoke an immune response against certain diseases. They have received much attention since the COVID-19 pandemic, where they served as the basis of the most widely used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
Days after canceling the funding, the HHS secretary—criticized for describing the COVID shot as “the deadliest vaccine ever made”—stated during a press conference his belief that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was dangerous and can cause “injuries” including myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart that can lead to health issues ranging from fatigue to cardiac arrest.
At the same time the scientifically unqualified Kennedy scion wrongly claimed there is no evidence football leads to brain damage.(say what!!!!!)
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