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The Lauri Thread

SoberasHotRod said:
I honestly don't know what you are arguing about? The post you originally responded to was about people who say he will both play well enough to prevent us from getting a pick AND play bad enough to tank his trade value. I do know what his contract is, and I do know that scenario is possible, I just think of all the scenarios to focus on that is the most miserable.

I can see the logic in trading Lauri, I'm definitely not 100% against it. Honestly my opinion is continuing to evolve.
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It just felt like you were trying to get a "gotcha" by trying to make a contradiction that's only a contradiction if you ignore his contract.

I like to focus on the things that are most impactful in either direction. Something being miserable or not doesn't really change it's likelihood or impact....It just so happens to be the case that bringing back Lauri creates potential for a miserable scenario. I don't really see that as dwelling, it's just giving consideration to the most consequential things.
 
KqWIN said:
It just felt like you were trying to get a "gotcha" by trying to make a contradiction that's only a contradiction if you ignore his contract.

I like to focus on the things that are most impactful in either direction. Something being miserable or not doesn't really change it's likelihood or impact....It just so happens to be the case that bringing back Lauri creates potential for a miserable scenario. I don't really see that as dwelling, it's just giving consideration to the most consequential things.
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If you've followed me at all you would know I'm not a "gotcha" guy, I could see where you could get that though, so no big deal.

I've already stated that the front office should consider all of the potential outcomes of keeping Lauri, so I guess we are on the same page.
 
NUMBERICA said:
He got frozen in restricted free agency and did what any player would do on their first non-rookie scale contract would do: find money. Cleveland was the only team that wanted to do what it took to get him and pay him (though I was pretty obnoxious that we needed to grab him as he was flapping in the wind for weeks into free agency). He didn’t sign an extension.
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You are not being wrong but I think you are arguing a minor detail. My point was broader: Lauri never did anything to change his NBA trajectory of being stuck on bad teams. Players who truly want to play on better teams find a way to do it even when it costs them something: by taking less money, requesting a trade outright or making their displeasure public, exerting their influence as the team leader etc. Lauri seems to be the type of a person who just...goes along with the circumstances and never takes an active role in shaping his own destiny.

He is incredibly quiet and non-assertive for being the leader of a terrible team... and he never even tried to become a star player until the Jazz encouraged him and outright pushed him into that role 3 years ago. Lauri is like anti-Butler and anti-Kobe.

People worry that he may not be on board with the continuation of the long-term rebuild but most likely he will be just fine with it.
 
I second very much to that assessment, most in-deep sports followers In Finland would say the same. Family and stable environment means to Lauri too much for him to start pushing things around him. It's good for a family man, but it's bad for his chances to win anything meaningful with his team. His hope is Jazz becomes great and he'll dir or gets traded and that team will be great.
 
Yeah, I did not mean it in a bad way. It is simply a kind of the stoic attitude of doing the best you can and hoping that other people do it as well. Is it that different from the attitude of John Stockton, for example? And if so, then Lauri can patiently wait until the Jazz are good again.
 
When did we decide to replace Lauri’s history with the Bulls with fan fiction that he never cared about anything?

Is there a joke I’m missing out on? What gives people the confidence to make up stuff so easily disproven? Not only is Markannen’s discontent in Chicago one of the worst kept secrets in the league, but he actually did the damn thing and became an all star.
 
The Lauri questions are back in full swing:

- Is he too good for us to safely keep our top 8 protected pick?
- Should we look to trade him? What is his trade value?
- Can we sit him if healthy and is on his way to All Star/All NBA?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The Lauri questions are back in full swing:

- Is he too good for us to safely keep our top 8 protected pick?
- Should we look to trade him? What is his trade value?
- Can we sit him if healthy and is on his way to All Star/All NBA?
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1. Not yet. To make it absolutely secure - maybe? It depends on how well Ace will turn up, how effectively Collier will start play (it'll make guard rotation more solid bc he really can run the plays, great BB IQ.), and how well Keyonte lights it up. And yet, the defense will keep losing against the most play-in level teams and above.
2. Be opportunistic. If you'll have anyone in mind that will have at least all star ceiling and age closer to 20 than 30, maybe pull the trigger..Don't trade for meh picks for the least.
3. He didn't commit to sit out. Deal with it, I"d say to Jazz FO. Or if you can't, trade him.
 
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Step-Back Lauri said:
1. Not yet. To make it absolutely secure - maybe? It depends on how well Ace will turn up, how effectively Collier will start play (it'll make guard rotation more solid bc he really can run the plays, great BB IQ.), and how well Keyonte lights it up. And yet, the defense will keep losing against the most play-in level teams and above.
2. Be opportunistic. If you'll have anyone in mind that will have at least all star ceiling and age closer to 20 than 30, maybe pull the trigger..Don't trade for meh picks for the least.
3. He didn't commit to sit out. Deal with it, is say to Jazz DO. Or if you can't, trade him.
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Great answers.
 
If we don’t maximize opportunity to draft peterson, aj, boozer, brown, peat after we flubbed wemby, literally the greatest prospect ever, idk what to tell ya. I’m sure they’ll throw Locke and the rest of the owned media at us to tell us it’s all going according to plan.
 
rippimpc said:
If we don’t maximize opportunity to draft peterson, aj, boozer, brown, peat after we flubbed wemby, literally the greatest prospect ever, idk what to tell ya. I’m sure they’ll throw Locke and the rest of the owned media at us to tell us it’s all going according to plan.
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We didn't flub anything, the league got Wemby where they wanted him. Then they got the Spurs another top 3 pick to go with him. Can't flub what wasn't yours to begin with.
 
LogGrad98 said:
We didn't flub anything, the league got Wemby where they wanted him. Then they got the Spurs another top 3 pick to go with him. Can't flub what wasn't yours to begin with.
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Yes, the league wanted Wemby in a tiny market instead of a larger market like Toronto. You should jack off to AI-generated gnome porn live so you can make less embarrassing content.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
Yes, the league wanted Wemby in a tiny market instead of a larger market like Toronto. You should jack off to AI-generated gnome porn live so you can make less embarrassing content.
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We have fully debunked the "tiny market" argument. Here is just the first thing that popped up showing just a portion of the money generated by these franchises in one season. Spurs at #9, Mavs at #10. The Spurs are a venerated franchise with a huge following and they move merchandise. So it made a lot of sense for Wemby to go there and bolster the numbers.

And if you go by total revenue for the past 20 years up to 2022, the Spurs are 11th in the league, well ahead of some much "larger" market teams, such as Philly.

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I moved it into a spreadsheet and did the math to show they are in the 11th spot.


View: https://x.com/NBA/status/1752330856088121350?s=20
 
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Yeah, has to be rigged. I mean they made sure to send hyper exciting, franchise player type prospects like Zion, Banchero, Morant and Ant to legendary basketball hotspots where the lights are the brightest.
 
On topic... Here's Lauri in his hobbies.
 

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