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KqWIN said:
Good call. Love has been better than their current backup big situation. Lopez+Beal+CP3 for Svi+Anderson+Love works money wise with no apron issues or need to worry about roster spots. It's the trade that makes the most sense.

We get something from the Clips for sending the better players and eating Beal's money for next year (but muh cap space). We also open up roster spots after waiving CP3, Beal, and Lopez (unless we want his cooked *** to chuck some 3's). Sign Mo, convert Harkless, get a revolving door of prospects going....whatever. Those roster spots have value.

And of course, there's BOGO tank value to this trade.
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If you do this, then you play CP3 starters minutes to drive the tank. We are at a very real risk of losing our pick and helping an extremely dominant dynasty-in-the-making. Need some drastic action to keep the losses coming. CP3 is just what the dr ordered.
 
framer said:
It won't even take that. All we need is for them to dramatically underachieve next year and he will start to lose interest. I have seen this movie before.
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He's losing interest this year already... I can see it now... Kenny Atkinson stating that he sees Donovan and Mobley sit next to each other at lunch sometimes.
 
LogGrad98 said:
He's right. Kawhi is horribly overrated, hasn't really been relevant since "the shot". I'm not sure I buy this story since this is pretty much the only source for it, but if it's true CP3 was right.
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I'm not a huge Chris Paul fan, but, boy, did he nail this one.

Kawhi has been a millstone tied around the Clippers' neck from the day he signed. He’s dragged the whole operation straight down with him. We like to imagine NBA front offices learn from their mistakes, but the Clippers offer a cautionary case study in willful amnesia: no matter how many times reality smacks them in the face, they keep betting the franchise on an oft-injured, structurally unreliable, and chronically disengaged “star.”

No player in recent memory—maybe ever—has extracted more money, patience, and delusion from a franchise while giving so little in return. Kawhi has turned fleecing the Clippers into an art form, and the organization keeps thanking him for the privilege. And the blame starts at the top. Balmer’s naked desperation for instant legitimacy produced a string of catastrophes: the gut-the-future Paul George trade, the inexplicable commitment to re-sign Kawhi, and the broader organizational fantasy that this core was ever going to be anything but brittle. Anyone with even a flicker of basketball sense saw this future coming a mile away. (Though to Balmer’s credit, at least he didn’t fall for Paul George’s self-mythologizing—Daryl Morey claimed that honor.)

But Kawhi deserves his share too. He’s become the league’s highest-paid absentee: a disengaged, unmotivated, leadership-averse passenger who’s coasted for years on a reputation inflated by a title won mostly because the opposing roster was too injured to mount a credible opposition.

The fact that the Clippers responded to Paul the way they did indicates that they still have yet to accept reality. They still insist that Kawhi is a star and continue to hitch their fortunes to him, notwithstanding that Kawhi is thoroughly washed and his star has stopped shining years ago, proving yet again the boundless human capacity to ignore glaring evidence, abandon common sense, and delude oneself into believing just about anything.
 
Looks like Franz avoided major injury, but he'll still be out for a bit. If ORL comes to the conclusion that they're better with one or the other, Franz would be a dream trade target.
 
KqWIN said:
Looks like Franz avoided major injury, but he'll still be out for a bit. If ORL comes to the conclusion that they're better with one or the other, Franz would be a dream trade target.
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It would be peak Orlando Magic to trade the better of their two players. I’m all the way in on Franz.
 
NUMBERICA said:
It would be peak Orlando Magic to trade the better of their two players. I’m all the way in on Franz.
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I don’t want to start another flame war….but I would trade “you know who” for him. Franz is one of the most underrated players in the league. 24 year old bonafide star player hiding in plain sight.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Proving a lot of haters wrong.
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Queen proved that he's a 100% non-shooter, short-arming a WIDE open game-winner.

He's a guy who has to be within 5 feet of the basket to score, and then he also has to be defended by someone equally unathletic. Luke Kornet, who now moves like a tectonic plate after inexplicably putting on a ton of weight, fits the bill. It was the battle of the two goofiest bigs in the league. At one point, Kornet literelly stumbled on his own feet with nobody near him and fell over, giving Queen a free layup.

Derik Queen is the perfect hero for the Pels, though. A 3-22 dumpster fire of a team with no hope, direction or fans is a great environment for an unserious rookie who's as useless off the ball as they come.
 
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