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ICE Shooting in Minnesota

Nothing to protest when it is done legally. Why would there be riots when Biden PROVED you can remove large numbers of people without executing citizens in the streets? Are you mad Biden made that many deportations without harassing legal citizens and with no executions? You get off on the executions, don't you? Naughty boy!

Oh wait, you still think ICE is there to go after immigrants and not harass ordinary citizens and engage in a terror campaign. You are so naive. They are Trump's Brown Shirts. His private military arm engaged in illegal tactics to detain legal citizens and sow terror among the populations of blue cities and states. That is their mandate from the Would-be King of America. That is how authoritarians and fascists fuhrer, or sorry, FURTHER their cause. Too bad you can't break away from fox "news" long enough to see what is really going on.
the problem is it isn't that black and white.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9Aj8kSr8I


Kaizen nails it. I'd like to see ICE be held to the highest standards. But this is about power. The war against deportations began before Trump took office.
 
It's a practical issue. It depends on where people are coming from because some cultures are more moral than others. That is just a fact. if you don't agree than I guess you think stoning a woman for adulatory which the overwhelming majority support as the appropriate punishment in several muslim countries is not immoral. Or the 18 or whatever billion Somali fraud being uncovered which according to several Somali's I have listened to, say it is a cultural issue. the Somali's see it as their right to take the money if they can etc
So I mean you're confirming,at least for yourself, that it is a cultural superiority thing.
 
So I mean you're confirming,at least for yourself, that it is a cultural superiority thing.
Sardines. If you cannot understand some cultures are more moral than others, you need to move to Afghanistan or Iraq or Egypt, or Yemen or Nigeria, etc so you can understand. If you want America to be like those places culturally, for example women lose many rights and minorities are heavily persecuted. non muslims pay a tax and are treated like 2nd class citizens. You support this?

My point is, the importance of assimilation is understated. Diversity is our strength is propagandist statement. Diversity is neither inherently evil or good. but It isn't a strength if the people you are bringing in believe women should not be educated and they must cover every inch of their bodies except their eyes. The people chanting death to America who come from other countries... my contention is there's no other nation with a culture more moral than America... certainly no other nation with a culture more moral than what you find in the western countries. America is the city set on a hill.
 
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Sardines. If you cannot understand some cultures are more moral than others, you need to move to Afghanistan or Iraq or Egypt, or Yemen or Nigeria, etc so you can understand. If you want America to be like those places culturally, for example women lose many rights and minorities are heavily persecuted. non muslims pay a tax and are treated like 2nd class citizens. You support this?
I made no statement regarding my understanding or willingness to understand the moral value of other cultures. You confirmed that your interest in immigration is primarily based on the cultural superiority of your own culture. That's it. I never even passed judgement on your position.
 
Sardines. If you cannot understand some cultures are more moral than others, you need to move to Afghanistan or Iraq or Egypt, or Yemen or Nigeria, etc so you can understand. If you want America to be like those places culturally, for example women lose many rights and minorities are heavily persecuted. non muslims pay a tax and are treated like 2nd class citizens. You support this?
Its illegal to even be Christian in Somalia of all places.
 
I made no statement regarding my understanding or willingness to understand the moral value of other cultures. You confirmed that your interest in immigration is primarily based on the cultural superiority of your own culture. That's it. I never even passed judgement on your position.
Ok. Yes America is culturally superior to many countries in the world because it is morally superior. I have no qualms or scruples about asserting America's moral superiority over nations where women are stoned to death, Imbreeding is acceptable, minorities are treated as 2nd class citizens or murdered. The indoctrination that goes on in some of our universities about how America and western civilization is evil and needs to burn is asinine. these people that believe this would not be able to identify a single non western country they would like to live in. but they still buy in to this BS. Yeah, of course if you work back from Utopia, America is not perfect. But we don't live in utopia... we live in the real world. all you have to do is read about human history to understand how freakin awful it can be. These people that hate america have no idea what they are really advocating for. This is why the communists called these people useful idiots. All these people who want a revolution... revolution is bad for everyone. Millions of people die. and what's on the other side is almost always way worse. And a lot of times the people that take power kill the revolutionaries they allied with because they are no longer useful and often pose a problem. Just read about Iranian revolution, the French revolution, The Bolshevik revolution, Moa's cultural revolution to figure that out. The American revolution is without question the most successful ever. Because our founders were moral and freakin awesome. yeah they had slaves. that's because 90% of all societies prior had slaves. Human history is a total **** show. and if many of the founders had had their way, They would have abolished slavery when the constitution was ratified. But they couldn't get the southern states on board so the plan was to abolish it gradually which was a radical idea in the world at the time. and by 1800 9 states had either abolished slavery or ratified law to phase it out of existence.
 
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Sure. It is a blue state and Trump vowed to get revenge on his political enemies. Texas has nearly 10 times the population of immigrants and illegals that MN does, so why was ICE not sent in force there to intimidate regular citizens? Oh yeah, they voted for Trump. I see you are just a troll like the rest. Too bad, I really wish we had a republican voice here who could provide logical and consistent counterpoint discussions. Guess you ain't it.
Also, part of a network of child rapist protectors? Sounds like Trump and Epstein to be honest. Which child rapists are you ok with?
This is none of my business but I would wager that if you leave backround noise like Epstein out of it - your argumentation would be stronger. Trump topsy-torveying everything is worrying. I suppose the question you have to ask is: would you shoot people when there are other options. It seems that this anomaly is starting to correct itself. Next three years will be interisting.
 
Lol how utterly uneducated. Brown shirts? I bet you can't even explain that lol. Show me a single time you all rioted under Biden arresting illegals. What city exactly? Nobody got shot because YOU ALL allowed ICE to arrest people without begging to be assaulted and smashing vehicles.

I'll wait
Why are you so caught up in riots? Why should there be riots every time illegals are removed, is that a requirement? Why would there be riots if it is done legally?

I have a degree in German with a focus on 20th century history and general business. Try again. And maybe use google so you know what Brown Shirts are. Maybe try Sturmabteilung to help you get started.
 
the problem is it isn't that black and white.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9Aj8kSr8I


Kaizen nails it. I'd like to see ICE be held to the highest standards. But this is about power. The war against deportations began before Trump took office.

The title of that video alone shows a lack of awareness of the situation currently at hand (can't watch it at work, I will watch it later). Of course it is in "democratic strongholds", that is where the white house directed ICE to be sent en masse, with little to no training, fully armed, and instructed to carry out illegal operations at all costs. Until the costs got too high. Why would the white house say they have complete immunity if they didn't know what they would be doing there? Seems reckless otherwise.
 
This is none of my business but I would wager that if you leave backround noise like Epstein out of it - your argumentation would be stronger. Trump topsy-torveying everything is worrying. I suppose the question you have to ask is: would you shoot people when there are other options. It seems that this anomaly is starting to correct itself. Next three years will be interisting.
Yeah that was part of his argument, that Pretti is part of an organized group intent on killing ICE to protect child rapists. That is the hyperbolic conspiracy theory being passed around in hyper-right and white supremacist sites right now. So I addressed that briefly with the actual child rapists that have been convicted or have actual evidence against them.
 
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The title of that video alone shows a lack of awareness of the situation currently at hand (can't watch it at work, I will watch it later). Of course it is in "democratic strongholds", that is where the white house directed ICE to be sent en masse, with little to no training, fully armed, and instructed to carry out illegal operations at all costs. Until the costs got too high. Why would the white house say they have complete immunity if they didn't know what they would be doing there? Seems reckless otherwise.
Yeah i think you'd have to watch it to get it. He makes logical points
 
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