Who is the real problem? Rank Order

Who in the Jazz organization is the biggest problem? Greg Miller? The front office (O'Connor and Lindsay)? Big Al? Milsap? Mo? Other?
What do you think?

1) UtahMan
2) Big Al
3) Corbin

1. Al
2. Corbin
3. The PG situation.

Nobody else is a problem. I'm even okay with keeping Foye and Marvin since they are capable of giving you quality 15-20 minutes when they're on.

LOL - Obviously I fogot to put Corbin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fail

I voted other because I think it is clear the problem is the inconsistency with the younger players.

If Hayward would be more consistent, if Favors could hit a free throw, if Kanter would put some effort into his game, and if Burks would get it out of his head that he is a 2... he is clearly a 1.

We need more from the young players.

FO


Jazz need an FO that strives for change about many things in the organization to create an *** kicking team that the league fears to even foul.

UGLI baby said:

1) UtahMan
2) Big Al
3) Corbin

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Hey, I am not that bad.

I voted other:

1. Corbin
2. Big Al
3. Mo

I don't think Millsap is a problem; if he is used properly he is an asset. And to a lesser degree, Mo. Even Big Al could be an asset if used properly -- but it all goes back to coaching and rotations, which falls on Corbin. He is the biggest problem.

Milsap. The Jazz's demise has clearly coincides with Milsap signing his toxic offer.

In the four seasons before the Milsap toxic offer the jazz had a winning percentage of 0.591. In the fours seasons since, it is .545, and since he has become the starter the jazz are basically .500.

In the four seasons prior the Jazz only missed the playoffs once. They lost in the 1st round, 2nd round and 3rd round.
In the four seasons since the jazz have (will) missed the playoffs twice. Last year with Milsap as the starter the Jazz were swept.

In the four seasons since Milsap wanted to leave- -the Jazz traded Eric Maynor, Harpring, Brewer, Kofous, and D-will.
Since he signed an offer designed to punish the Jazz, the team has let Boozer, Korver, Mathews and AK walk for nothing.

Jerry Sloan quit since Milsap signed his toxic offer.

Al Jefferson was aquired in part because he could play center next to Milsap, who had to be the starter at the pf.

Since Milsap said he didn't want to be here and signed the toxic offer from another team, the Jazz's offense rating has decreased every year.

After Milsap signed a toxic offer sheet to play back-up pf to Aldridge in Portland, then returned to the Jazz demanding to be a starter Memo Okur blew out his achilles, twice.

The Delta Center became Energy Solutions Arena--after Milsap demanded a raise and the starting job.

#2 is Ty Corbin for not teaching his team any inbound plays or knowing how to manage an end of game situation.
#3 is Jonathan Rinehart for not communicating to us that this was a rebuilding/tanking year.
#4 is Golden State for tanking last season and costing us a chance to move up to get Lilliard.

mellow said:

Milsap. The Jazz's demise has clearly coincides with Milsap signing his toxic offer.

In the four seasons before the Milsap toxic offer the jazz had a winning percentage of 0.591. In the fours seasons since, it is .545, and since he has become the starter the jazz are basically .500.

In the four seasons prior the Jazz only missed the playoffs once. They lost in the 1st round, 2nd round and 3rd round.
In the four seasons since the jazz have (will) missed the playoffs twice. Last year with Milsap as the starter the Jazz were swept.

In the four seasons since Milsap wanted to leave- -the Jazz traded Eric Maynor, Harpring, Brewer, Kofous, and D-will.
Since he signed an offer designed to punish the Jazz, the team has let Boozer, Korver, Mathews and AK walk for nothing.

Jerry Sloan quit since Milsap signed his toxic offer.

Al Jefferson was aquired in part because he could play center next to Milsap, who had to be the starter at the pf.

Since Milsap said he didn't want to be here and signed the toxic offer from another team, the Jazz's offense rating has decreased every year.

After Milsap signed a toxic offer sheet to play back-up pf to Aldridge in Portland, then returned to the Jazz demanding to be a starter Memo Okur blew out his achilles, twice.

The Delta Center became Energy Solutions Arena--after Milsap demanded a raise and the starting job.

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WTF? This has got to be sarcasm.

1. Corbin - Cause if he had been improve and adjust young players roles earlier (Burks still trying to find his way, Kanter still getting inconsistent minutes) and if he had the guts of not giving minutes to scrubs and limit Big Al minutes when he should, we wouldn't be in that position. He simply gave the "this is your team" message to the vets and they literally ****ed up.

2. KOC and Lindsey - I didnt like every move KOC made at off season seems like only Foye proved me wrong and i think they didn't push so hard to make a move till the trade deadline cause they just overvalued 1/2 Milsap and Jefferson (maybe because they were essential pieces for them to make a playoff push but seems like its not happening) now they'll watch them go for nothing, especially for Milsap its unfortunate, i think ending up like that was predictable for Big Al. If they resign one of them its an even bigger fail, cause Kanter and Favors proved that they're ready.

3. Big Al - You know why. *wink wink*

voted Other.

1. Corbin : you all know why...

2. Greg Miller : Much like Corbin, he has no ****ing clue what he's doing and honestly, I don't think he gives a rat's ***. I can almost see this as him, in some round about way, getting all the fans to turn on the team and franchise until he can claim that the Jazz are no longer profitable. Then he can sell the team and buy more ****ty mudder trucks that he can go drive at the dunes or in Moab. Silver spoon fed chump...

3. Al Jefferson : He should know better. If he gave a crap about winning, he would pull himself out and not allow Corbin to play him... take one for the team for once, Big Al. You giant lump of dog ****!

1. Corbin - good assistant coach but not head coach, bad rotations, bad use of timeouts, bad motivator, bad leader
2. Point guard situation - the passing and penetration has been horrible. even when guys are open the passes are so bad that the defense has time to react
3. The black whole that is Al - he has skill, but his defense is really poor, his positioning on the floor detracts from the rest of the team, he forces lower percentage shots
4. Front Office - They are so intent on cap space this summer that they seem almost unwilling to consider potential smaller short term moves that could benefit both short and long term

1. Ty
2. Mo
3. Al, Millsap. (With a decent pg, they would be better. I've never seen worse pg play then what Mo did vs NY)
4. DutchJazzer

Thee jazz fan said:

1. Ty
2. Mo
3. Al, Millsap. (With a decent pg, they would be better. I've never seen worse pg play then what Mo did vs NY)
4. DutchJazzer

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At least this guy also acknowledges that Millsap and DutchJazzer are also a problem.

JazzSpazz said:

I voted other because I think it is clear the problem is the inconsistency with the younger players.

If Hayward would be more consistent, if Favors could hit a free throw, if Kanter would put some effort into his game, and if Burks would get it out of his head that he is a 2... he is clearly a 1.

We need more from the young players.

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Burks a 1? Tell that to David "the Shill" Locke ha. I don't think he is a shill btw. Locke is pretty legit.

Corbin, Big AL, and Mo are all kind of equally to blame. Corbin might be least to blame but he is still not blameless. Def a top 3 to blame.

Eenie-Meenie said:

I voted other:

1. Corbin
2. Big Al
3. Mo

I don't think Millsap is a problem; if he is used properly he is an asset. And to a lesser degree, Mo. Even Big Al could be an asset if used properly -- but it all goes back to coaching and rotations, which falls on Corbin. He is the biggest problem.

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Well, one thing is certain, Mo has certainly cost us atleast two games this year. If Mo would have never come back from injury i honestly think we would have two more wins and of course two less losses. The guy is just terrible... I have never come to by annoyed by anyone as much as i am by Mo. not even C.J. miles got to me this much. I think it is becasue Mo is the only player i have ever seen that, though shooting less than 20 percent in the last 3 minutes of a game, has to play hero ball. I get the vibe that Mo is all about personal Glory, or atleast more so than the other players... Hope i am wrong about that and maybe i am.

Basketball_Romantic23 said:

Burks a 1? Tell that to David "the Shill" Locke ha. I don't think he is a shill btw. Locke is pretty legit.

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I've been saying Burks is a 1 for quite sometime now. Not to mention I pointed out that Karl Malone also said this about Burks during last years all-star break.

It was ultimately Greg Miller's decision to hire Ty and watch all this unfold. So the way I see it - all of this is Greg's fault.