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  1. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    If Collier can't shoot, then I don't know how both he and Kessler are in the long term plans together.
  2. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Kon makes up for lack of athleticism with strength and skill, but the lack of athleticism is striking at times. There are a few plays I'm watching where it's hard to see that same play working in the NBA. For example he's on a fast break and has to stutter step before gathering to go up for a...
  3. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    I assume this has been brought up before, but I'm watching a lot of Kon and I keep seeing Joe Ingles.
  4. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    IT was just a hypothetical.
  5. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    If VJ goes 3, who do we think goes 4 to Charlotte?
  6. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    I think the Tre and VJ as point guards in the NBA discussion is a little silly, but I at least gave it a chance. I watched the turnover and assist portions of their hardwood hoops videos and here are my notes: - Neither player is running plays for their team or getting their team in an...
  7. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Truthfully I don't really care how much my guards rebound, except that it has been shown to be a positive indicator of NBA success and points to some functional athleticism. I also don't think that Tre is a bad passer and I think he will be fine and with some coaching could even be good. That...
  8. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    LMAO, you really are a blind homer. I should have qualified it as for guards, but the only guard that had less assists is Jase. https://www.tankathon.com/big_board
  9. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    You are right. Tre is objectively not well rounded as one of the worst rebound, assist, stock guys in the draft, whereas Kas is only subjectively unathletic, even when the film and indicators say he is fine.
  10. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    To be more clear: First watch - Live games as they happened and Cashiggy videos as they became available Second Watch - Scouting videos and Hardwood Hoops videos Third Watch - All the Cashiggy videos over again specifically looking for the strengths weaknesses mentioned on here and in scouting...
  11. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    FWIW, this is exactly a second watch of these prospects, but more like a 3rd watch. I might end up regretting getting all the way to a 3rd watch and find that I'm finding things that aren't really there or ignoring things that I liked in the first place.
  12. SoberasHotRod

    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    I'm pretty sure this is the Sacramento deal that fell through because of the Fox trade.
  13. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Kon and Fears are the next two on my rewatch list. I think they are in the same tier as Kas and so Kas vs Kon and Kas vs Fears should be discussed more in my opinion.
  14. SoberasHotRod

    2025 NBA Mock Draft #2

    I think it makes sense to do one more mock draft next week. What is the preference for the type of mock draft? Do people like having trades? Would you prefer to just be able to trade picks vs trading players? Full draft vs just first round vs just to a certain pick?
  15. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    I'm fully onboard with all of this, as you know I'm super high on Kas. FWIW, the only reason I have Ace in the tier ahead of Kas is because of his potential as a good defender. Defense is something I constantly talk about and value, and it has felt a little off to be so high on Kas when I...
  16. SoberasHotRod

    2025 NBA Mock Draft #2

    Thanks for everyone's participation. If we do this again, we should probably stop at pick 43.
  17. SoberasHotRod

    2025 NBA Mock Draft #2

    With the last pick of the draft Houston selects RJ Luis Jr.
  18. SoberasHotRod

    2025 NBA Mock Draft #2

    @David Hume is up for the second to last pick. Thee already sent me his final pick and so once David Hume picks the draft will be over.
  19. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Neither Bryant or Coward are more proven. Bryant barely played and Coward almost exclusively played against terrible competition. Coward has an actual real jump shot though, so having him higher makes sense, but Bryant is younger and I'm more confident will be a difference making defender...
  20. SoberasHotRod

    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    I'm not really used to arguing against Kas, lol, but yeah I just got to the point today while going through film that I am less confident than before that he will be a good shooter. I hope he is, and I think there is plenty of reason to believe, but if he isn't a a great shooter, I'm not sure...
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