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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    The problem with this is that you are forever waiting. Straight up the Jazz are nver getting the number one pick when a sure fire all star comes available. There is no successful strategy available to us where this happens. We have to take chances on players who COULD be something if stuff falls...
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    2025 Playoffs Chat & Chill Thread

    Because everyone who is an NBA fan understands the context. It was damn near magical.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    No. Not a chance.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    It's the East though. You could screw around just swapping Lauri for PG and bumble your way into a 4 seed even if Embiid is broken. I'm fully expecting half of the East to tank next year.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    I kind of feel like I have watched the Clayton Jr. movie twice with the Jazz picking the March Madness darling small guard. Both of those picks were decent around 22-30. That's where I would put him value wise. Just don't trade the pick that could become Giannis to get him.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Yeah I don't think he missed a single shot in any of the highlight videos I watched.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    I'd expect that to be their public position all the way until George gets traded.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    I think you have to take Ace there even if it is just to ship him elsewhere. The value is way too high. You can trade back for Kon or Fears level players.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Is there anyone anywhere that doesn't think that Charlotte won't draft VJ if he is available? I tend not to believe rumors but this seems to be a universal sentiment
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    At 16, Keyonte was a tremendous pick. What are you even on about. . .
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    Whoa there, there is nothing about Fears that suggests "Elite 3 level scoring." Come on. Possible 3 level scoring, possibly, not probably, and certainly not elite. A probable outcome for him as a scorer is closer to Keyonte George, who may be an as good or better facilitator.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    To be fair, Collier should have been 8-11 in his draft. If people are that hungry for him at 5, we need to find a way to short that stock for more value.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    The actual measurements don't scream "immeasurable." It is possible you may not know what that word means. . .
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    6'2" scoring guards are like the Nissan Altimas of NBA players. If you really need one you can find one and they generally come pretty cheap. There is no reason to spend a top 5 pick on one unless they have legit point guard skills too.
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    What grade would you give Ainge for his draft selections?

    Jermaine O'Neal was putrid his first 4 seasons until he came around and became a very good player after he left Portland for Indiana. Portland fans were vicious towards him because they figured they had wasted a high pick on a bum. Dude just needed to grow into his body.
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    What grade would you give Ainge for his draft selections?

    There are no playoff teams looking at stocking up on 20 year olds for their playoff run.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    LOL. . .
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    My dream is that we trade Lauri to get 3, draft Tre, trade back for assets with Washington, get Kon, use Washington assets plus Sexton, plus 21 ( if we still have it) or other assets to get up high enough for Demin. Keep George, keep Collins, roll out and play basketball with what we have.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    There is no way this is a buyout unless George nullifies his contract, which he wouldn't do.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    However, if we did the trade with Philly that got us the 3 and the 5, we took Tre at 3 and VJ came off the board at 4. I would at least stop and think about Kon at 5. Still probably go with Ace, but Kon covers so many holes. . .
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