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    Ricky's commercial

    I often felt the same way for the Mr. Whipple “Don’t squeeze the Charmin” commercials during the 70s. There HAD to be some deeper meaning there; I just could never figure it out.
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Socialism also includes some aspect of labor organization and power divested to the labor force. That most assuredly wasn't the case in any monarchy of yesteryear.
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    With regards to Bush 2, I have a hard time to call someone a decent human being who authorized the policy of extreme rendition and state torture. That's evil sh** right there. The difference between him and Trump is that Bush probably supported and authorized the policy as a 'pragmatic' (but...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    This is true if one focuses on what news is reported in social media or what headlines say or pay attention to how Republicans are trying to frame the issues. There's a lot of news about, say, AOC and her allies, but they are a wing of the party and are by no means driving the bus. There's a...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    The thing about Trump that I find so interesting is the lack of self-awareness about how history is likely to judge the Trump Administration and those who enabled him. He, and his supporters, are on the wrong side of history, and as the nation regains its collective mind and time passes and the...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Yes, it's inconsistent, but one consistent attribute of humans is that we are inconsistent. We tend to argue, not based on firm principle, but on what is convenient for us in the moment. Invoking principles when convenient and abandoning them when inconvenient. Neither side is exempt, most...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Wouldn't that make the Porn industry history's greatest facilitator of mass murder?
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Social norms vary considerably throughout the world viz relations between sexes, and even vary considerably within countries. Most countries outside the West have conservative/traditional norms related to relationships among sexes and gender roles. It is more common than less common that these...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    I wouldn't call this socialism. Not every form of gov involvement in economy and other aspects of life equates to some form of socialism. Socialism is a word that if oft-used and oft-used incorrectly. Expect a lot of this to happen in next election cycle in which Repub's strategy is taking...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    I recall reading it some time back. My brother & his wife adopted 3 children through LDS social services. Afterwards I heard LDS social services no longer does adoptions. I don't know 100% if this is true, and if true, why. I am only speculating that concerns about blowback about using...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    One way the Left could help promote adoptions is to remove objections to religious-based adoption agencies that use religious criteria to place children. My brother adopted 3 children through the LDS Church, which is no longer, I believe, offering this service due in part to this issue. (I...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Is this supposed to be some kind of clever, gotcha question? It's framed like one, but, no offense, you suck at it. No, I don't imagine they'd let them all die, that is clearly un unrealistic scenario and a dumb question. But, many of them will absolutely be calloused to their fate post-birth...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    As just another observation, IF one believes that unborn children are human and have rights, and if conservatives are so dead set on protecting them, then how is refusing to extend Medicaid or otherwise increasing affordable access to the health care system (including reproductive, pre-natal...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Indeed. What constitutes "life" is a largely philosophical argument. Science can inform it, but can't determine it, I think. Even then, if we agree that life begins at X point, does this mean that the woman at point X suddenly loses control over her body and reproduction to the State...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    What constitutes "forced" in your world? If a disempowered woman has sex with her lawful partner, even if she doesn't want to but feels no power to object, is that forced sex, ergo rape? If social/religious norms require that women submit to their husbands, even if they don't want to, is that...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    It's not rape. That itself is also an incredible naive position. Just because a woman is disempowered where it comes to sex does not make all sex, therefore, rape. You're only digging your hole deeper, continuing to show no ability for nuanced thinking; I'd quit while you're behind.
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Well said. I respect your position on this issue. I won't criticize people for valuing life. It's a noble motivating moral principle. From where I sit, however (and as you've articulated), it's, unfortunately, not that cut and dried.
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Holy hell, but you are naive about the world. I strongly suggest that you get out and actually do some observation and learning about what life is like outside your bubble. My work takes me all over the world dealing with issues related to economic development, health, food security...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    Agreed, I avoid any thing, regardless which side, which claims to "Destroy" or "Completely Own" etc. Anyone can cherry pick a video showing, presumably, one side destroying or owning the other. It's the nature of social media 'debate,' it's all about the gotcha win, almost never about honest...
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    Compelling Pro Life Argument

    You do realize it's not this simple, right? There are any number of reasons where women are disempowered where it comes to sex and getting pregnant that don't involve rape or incest. You are positing a overly simplistic, reductionist worldview more consistent with a ideology or dogma that what...
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