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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    Everything is saying that is was just a different flavor of what we've seen time and time again. The Jazz did the right thing. I do think the media is milking it though.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    For the record, I totally agree with everyone that saying Cooper is bad for Ace. My actual opinion that I wanted to convey is reflected in TJ’s article.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    Ok, then argue with @Handlogten's Heros then. I’ve said enough about this lol.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    Ok I know you are very excited about your dm source. I am too, can’t wait for the day all the tea is leaked. How can I communicate to you that Cooper’s motivations are not what I’m talking about? You said the tactics aren’t the issue. We agree on that, and this the scope of what I’m talking...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    I’d agree that sitting out summer league is atypical. We’ll see what happens.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    And I’ve try to say that this is about the first thing like a million times. I 100% agree of you think Cooper is a problem. That’s one conversation. But my post you guys replied to said that these tactics are a different flavor of what already happens. The tactics are different because Cooper is...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    If he had Bartlestein or Paul, those two would put pressure in other ways. They would also refuse a workout, but would also play a cat and mouse game where both sides try to maintain on good terms because the client base is large. Cooper is a fake agent without any other real clients. He can’t...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    Glad someone else said it as well! This part at the end shows why TJ is a real writer and I am not. Summed it up perfectly:
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    I’m overthinking this because I think it’s not an issue? I hope the Jazz didn’t overthink it, because they didn’t care either way. All I said is that this is a different version of what happens every year. Tony just wrote an article saying the same thing. He must be overthinking it as well.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    I don’t misunderstand why people have a problem with his agent. You guys have been talking over my point over and over and informing me as to why you hate him. I got it. That’s not what I’ve been trying to discuss. Understanding why people hate Cooper has nothing to do with the point of my...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    So the first part is exactly what I’ve been saying this whole time, so thank you for actually acknowledging it for the first time. As far as the second part, I don’t really care to speculate if the preferred destinations were actually his preferred destinations. Doesn’t interest me and I’ve...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    I do think Cooper is more of a long term concern. Having the wrong people around a young player can harm their development. I don’t think Cooper is good for him. Speaking to the title of this thread and thinking about moving Ace….yeah I don’t think so. Agents have continuously done “all they...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    How can I put this simply. I’m obviously failing miserably, so maybe less words is best? Omar Cooper = Bad And WAS/NOP/BKN as preferred destination = Bad But Trying to get player in preferred destination = Agent Job
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    Yeah, you’re unable to differentiate the two things. This conversation is going nowhere. I fully understand what you’re saying and I’m trying to tell you I’m taking about something different. You are speaking on the decision to identify WAS/NOP/BKN as best. I am not talking about the decision...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    You’re talking past me once again. You keep mentioning the money. First of all, you realize that’s less money for his agent. But more importantly, it’s irrelevant to what I’m saying. Can I stress that one more time? The money is irrelevant if the preferred destination is still the preferred...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    It’s simple. The universe where a player prefers to go to WAS. That is this universe. You’re talking past me. I am not defending the decision to prefer WAS, I am defending the act of steering an agent towards a preferable destination. Those are two different things.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    No I'm serious, I don’t think we would care if an agent forced their player to Utah. We would clap our hands and celebrate. He didn’t want Utah and I still don’t care. I care as much as the FO does, which is none at all. The stupid part was identifying Washington as the best situation—I think...
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    If Ace chose Utah, would you have the same energy? Where is the disdain and grooming allegations for every other time this happens? The desire to place a player in a specific place is not bad. The actual choice of where they wanted to go, questionable.
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    Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?

    What part about it not being all about money do you not understand? Agents should do whatever they can to get a player where he wants to be. It doesn’t matter if that cost $1M, $5M, or $15M. Where a player wants to be is where he wants to be. And every single year agents do this. It’s up to...
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