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  1. Handlogten's Heros

    Jazz trade John collins

    No... they might be close depending on buyout amounts for Clarkson and Anderson/Love if any.
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    2025 Free Agency Thread

    So Memphis gave away Huff for a second round pick and a second round pick swap... and I know this is like a minor deal but I kind of love it for Indiana. Dude is good and cheap and bigs were expensive this offseason. Not signing Turner helps a lot with their cap situation and they can dip out of...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I also think it is helpful to wait and see what you have before getting a guy like Giddy who does kind of box you in a little. Especially for where we are.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Yeah I $20M per year like him. I $30M per year kinda hate him. He likely gets closer to that and I could see them regretting that one if it gets there. He has done it multiple years so I just wonder what player he is most like. Cap space may not mean much next year. We will see.
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    Day 1 Starting Lineup/depth chart as of right now? I can’t figure it out

    Collier Svi Anderson Lauri Nurk are the starters. Will figure out the rest later.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Depends on the price but he really goosed his numbers post AS break and if you are buying based on that... there could be some buyers remorse if he is closer to 12/7/6 than 21/11/9. He has been a post AS break looter. Even at 25M per year I have real reservations.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Just get them next year when whatever team pays them regrets it and is willing to attach an asset.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    We wanted Collins though... he wasn't a means to get out of Gay's money. It was 100% about getting Collins the player and not a salary move. We could have paid Gay and used like 20M+ in cap space that offseason. Might have even been at the floor.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Kuminga does too... I have bad news for both of them.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    No. We added like 18M in salary. We could have simply waived him. We wanted Collins.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    No... Salary dumps of one year contracts... then next year you have cap space. I chose both thank you.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Yeah it did seem like Collins had a better market than Sexton. Even going back to last trade deadline. Market has turned so hard on small guards.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I think there was only the report that Grimes wants like 25-30M a year. So you are there with 3/75. My guess is Sixers are in the 4/75 range. I guess I struggle to see that as a win if you got him at 3/75M or if they matched that it doesn't really help that. Like just with John Collins... is...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I just hated how that question was asked and how there was no follow up or clarification. Big game hunting was hilarious and @Elizah Huge and I called it out on the pod when it happened. It had like 2-3 qualifiers that no one bothers to mention. It was reinforced by others in the local media...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Grimes gets us just a smidge too close to competence and I think it will take 4/100M to make them pause on a match. To make the offer we give up a little flexibility on the amount we can take in salary dumps. If they want to work a sign and trade with the exception maybe I guess but I don't want...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Depends on what they want to do with Walker but it will be basically max or ability to get to max very easily. There aren't going to be FAs you would want to max out though. Partly a guess based on which guys get extended. I would bet its more a thing where we would take someone's slightly...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Not sure why you would want to mess around in RFA right now. You don't want to put in EBay bids that you don't want to win. Good/Fair offers will get matched. I'd rather just keep the full MLE and full trade exception and have the ability to take on 40M in bad expiring salaries and just get cap...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Take on salary dumps with the trade exception and MLE. Fill the coffers with second round picks. No offer sheets in FA. Hold our nose for one year. Go into next offseason with a bunch of cap space and decide what you want to do with it.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I'd take the over.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Yeah... my position was the "profit" from that deal had to be in the acquisition. The Hawks should have had to pony up the Kings pick to get that one done. Getting Collins for free likely cost us 6-10 second round picks in cap space we could have rented out. This offseason would have been killer...
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