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    Jazz trade John collins

    We wanted Collins though... he wasn't a means to get out of Gay's money. It was 100% about getting Collins the player and not a salary move. We could have paid Gay and used like 20M+ in cap space that offseason. Might have even been at the floor.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Kuminga does too... I have bad news for both of them.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    No. We added like 18M in salary. We could have simply waived him. We wanted Collins.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    No... Salary dumps of one year contracts... then next year you have cap space. I chose both thank you.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Yeah it did seem like Collins had a better market than Sexton. Even going back to last trade deadline. Market has turned so hard on small guards.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I think there was only the report that Grimes wants like 25-30M a year. So you are there with 3/75. My guess is Sixers are in the 4/75 range. I guess I struggle to see that as a win if you got him at 3/75M or if they matched that it doesn't really help that. Like just with John Collins... is...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I just hated how that question was asked and how there was no follow up or clarification. Big game hunting was hilarious and @Elizah Huge and I called it out on the pod when it happened. It had like 2-3 qualifiers that no one bothers to mention. It was reinforced by others in the local media...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Grimes gets us just a smidge too close to competence and I think it will take 4/100M to make them pause on a match. To make the offer we give up a little flexibility on the amount we can take in salary dumps. If they want to work a sign and trade with the exception maybe I guess but I don't want...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Depends on what they want to do with Walker but it will be basically max or ability to get to max very easily. There aren't going to be FAs you would want to max out though. Partly a guess based on which guys get extended. I would bet its more a thing where we would take someone's slightly...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Not sure why you would want to mess around in RFA right now. You don't want to put in EBay bids that you don't want to win. Good/Fair offers will get matched. I'd rather just keep the full MLE and full trade exception and have the ability to take on 40M in bad expiring salaries and just get cap...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Take on salary dumps with the trade exception and MLE. Fill the coffers with second round picks. No offer sheets in FA. Hold our nose for one year. Go into next offseason with a bunch of cap space and decide what you want to do with it.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    I'd take the over.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Yeah... my position was the "profit" from that deal had to be in the acquisition. The Hawks should have had to pony up the Kings pick to get that one done. Getting Collins for free likely cost us 6-10 second round picks in cap space we could have rented out. This offseason would have been killer...
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    Salt Lake City Summer League: July 5-8 @ Huntsman Center

    SL gonna be 10x more fun without Kenny. Man he was a big let down last year.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    It is but I just think I'd be happy to keep Lauri into next season as well. Remove Collins and the tank is safe.
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    John Collins to Chicago still makes sense and is plausible. Zach Collins and Jevon Carter or Huerter and Carter. Give us a second for our trouble. We waive both guys or maybe keep Carter to beat up on the young guys in practice. Feels like a steal for Chicago and a good fit imo. Giddy/Collins...
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    2025 Off-Season Trade Ideas Thread

    In the next week or two when these deals shake out I wonder if a team comes for Collins. Lauri I think would be an in-season move if his play improved and a team thinks they have a chance this year. I think if we get closer to camp and they haven't solved Collins you push a buyout maybe if he...
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    2025 Free Agency Thread

    I think it may have gone a bit far though. It may be good long term to reset the market as our FO does lust after them.
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    2025 Free Agency Thread

    Miami standing pat this offseason would be so wild to me. So many cheap ways to improve and that team is so stale. East is wide open. They think they getting FAs or something in the next couple years. Have fun guys.
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