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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    Sure that’s fair. But if any team had him atop their board they would have done the same as the Jazz. The decision to go to Rutgers and not go somewhere where he would actually get coached was the mistake.
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    If he was good enough, they would have drafted him anyways. Happens every year. The Jazz drafted him because they thought he was good enough, but the other teams did not. If it mattered so much the Jazz wouldn’t have drafted him either. Teams at the top of the draft do not care about this. You...
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    Jackpotting Around - It's Just One Game... But...

    What you’re saying makes sense. My read on the situation is that the Jazz aren’t in love with Kessler, but they also won’t trade him because they are greedy/stubborn in trade negotiations.
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    And? Players move up and down the board all the time. Ace was not the clear 3rd best prospect at all. The biggest harm to Ace’s draft stock was his poor play at Rutgers.
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    The biggest problem with Ace going to Rutgers is that he wasn’t coached. The poor talent around him obviously makes things more difficult, but a real coach and strong program would have made him look much better. He was leaning into the bad stuff, and there’s just no way Rutgers was going to...
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    Game Thread Oct 10, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ San Antonio Spurs (Preseason)

    The young guys have looked great on offense which is really promising. Hard to ignore just how disorganized and bad this team has been on defense though.
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    Game Thread Oct 10, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ San Antonio Spurs (Preseason)

    Is Brice already a better (offensive) player than Bogey was?
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    Jackpotting Around - It's Just One Game... But...

    A Walker deal doesn't make sense if the Jazz don't think he's good enough for that deal.....okay, then you should have moved him instead of dragging it out. If Walker takes a step forward to make the Jazz think he's worth $30M, he's probably going to be worth $40M to other teams. This very much...
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    Jackpotting Around - It's Just One Game... But...

    Stringing along Kessler, slighting him at many different moments, not rewarding him when he did what you asked him to....I just don't think that's a recipe for success. The Jazz could be 100% right that Kessler is not worth $25M a year. But I'm fairly certain someone else does and would trade...
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    Jackpotting Around - It's Just One Game... But...

    Wrt to Walker, it's obvious that the Jazz don't love him which may or may not prove to be the right judgement. If the money was what it seems, I think it's a mistake, but time will tell. What's concerning to me is that this just seems to be another situation where the Jazz drag it out and...
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    All of these comparisons....I still want to see him get some FT's.
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    Game Thread Oct 08, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Houston Rockets (Preseason)

    Offensive skills aren’t the reason he’s not Jaden or Herb. He has 1/10th the motor. Those guys play a million times harder.
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    Hard Willy, please give the Keyonte, Ace, Taylor, Lauri, Kessler starting lineup a chance and a long leash.

    I see what you're saying, but I view it from a different perspective. I want players to be in a role where they can succeed and get the right opportunities which is not necessarily trying to make the most competitive starting lineup with the fewest holes. Besides, this defensive issue is zero...
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    Hard Willy, please give the Keyonte, Ace, Taylor, Lauri, Kessler starting lineup a chance and a long leash.

    It would be fun to see Flip with the starters. He can shoulder a lot of the playmaking burden by playing at the elbows with his dribble handoff game. Just gives us another option in the half court besides Key. We saw John Collins thrive in this playmaking 4 role and I'd say Flip is even more...
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    Game Thread Oct 08, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Houston Rockets (Preseason)

    I'm just not sure Cody has an identity at this level of play. You could argue he's a more skilled player than Hendricks, for example, but TH's abilities are so relevant and desired. He had some nice drives yesterday (even if he didn't finish), but there's not really a spot on an NBA roster for a...
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    One bad habit that has surfaced itself a few times so far is that he doesn't love contact on offense. I don't think he is soft, but I think he is trained to use his talent to evade the defense and/or shoot over them. I though he had an opportunity to turn the corner and challenge the defense at...
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    Hard Willy, please give the Keyonte, Ace, Taylor, Lauri, Kessler starting lineup a chance and a long leash.

    I don't hate it. Coud give Anderson the Keith Bogans and have him play the first 5-6 minutes of each half and that's it. If he's going to get 10-12 minutes, maybe those minutes make the most sense. You could go with a lot of options there tbh. Flip, Collier, WCJ, Brice....I think any of those...
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    Beyond showcasing his talent poorly, I was seriously worried about habits that were formed over time and how he viewed himself as a player. Rutgers was the perfect setting to reinforce those bad habits. The basketball situation was worse at Rutgers obviously, but he was leaning into the garbage...
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    Ace Bailey Hype thread

    Most encouraging sign from SL + Preseason is that he's playing completely different than he did at Rutgers. It's an easier path for him to succeed and it shows that he's open and willing to adapt.
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