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#1 Pick to Utah?

Stoked said:
If the deal is Favors, Burks and #23

OR

Favors, #5 and #23

I like it even more!!!

We end up with Wiggins and Burks or Wiggins and Gordon/Vonleh/Embiid.

Man I hope DL can get this deal done!
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i agree.

and not sure which pairings i would rather have tbh
 
BENTLEY said:
I'm of the opinion that Burks is special. I don't think I'm overvaluing. Guy's a stud.
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I'm more in this camp, but I understand the other side as well. I think if Burks stays with us this season and starts he scores 20 a game with good efficiency. He's a much better passer than people give him credit for. I'd like to play Wiggins alongside Burks as I think they'd be tough to guard.

I keep Burks out of this deal... move Kanter GSW pick or something else. Burks has potential, not as much, to be as good as Wiggins or Jabari.
 
richgates said:
I know it's probably all a smokescreen to try and pry more from the Jazz or other teams, but here is the latest on Cleveland and the #1 pick:

"Of the offers they've received, a source says the Cavs aren't enamored by either the Sixers' offer (Thaddeus Young and the No. 3 pick) nor the Jazz's offer (Derrick Favors and the No. 5 pick). However, the Cavs do have some interest in the Magic's offer of Arron Afflalo, the No. 4 pick and the No. 12 pick."

From this article: https://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11127401/cleveland-cavaliers-torn-draft-first
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That Orlando offer is lights out. Take it, Cavs!

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I'd like to replace Burks with Gary Harris if he's traded. Kind of like a Bradley Beal type of player.

I don't even know what's going to happen though and nothing I can do about it. So this is going to be exciting!
 
BENTLEY said:
I don't understand Cav's interest in Burks. They have Waiters. And CJ. I understand their wanting a big. I think Favors + 5 is fair. If they'll take Kanter instead of Favors I'd include the 23rd or some future pick.

I know they wanna rape us but I don't wanna be raped. If that isn't enough then I'm happy with gambling on Aaron Gordon. I think he has as a good chance to be as good as the guys at the top of the draft.
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I don't think they want Burks. What they REALLY want is next season's unprotected pick. They know we'll be in the lottery again. Jazz will improve, but not double their win total. Best case is maybe a Phoenix-type season: competitive, but just not quite at a playoff level. And with Cleveland's luck (I know the lottery can't be fixed, but how else to explain?), the #12 pick becomes top-3. In negotiations you have to be willing to walk away. This deal is more essential for Cleveland than Utah. They HAVE to get a big AND clear cap space to have a shot at LBJ. Wiggins doesn't fit with LBJ and Parker just replaces Thompson. They're still left with an aging Varejao and an UFA in Hawes who doesn't defend. I still maintain the compromise is top-3 protection for 2015 and unprotected in 2016. If Utah is really bad, or really lucky, they get to keep their pick next season and then it's likely in the teens the following year. But that's a SMALL chance. More likely is Cleveland ends up with a pick in the 8-10 range.
 
richgates said:
I know it's probably all a smokescreen to try and pry more from the Jazz or other teams, but here is the latest on Cleveland and the #1 pick:

"Of the offers they've received, a source says the Cavs aren't enamored by either the Sixers' offer (Thaddeus Young and the No. 3 pick) nor the Jazz's offer (Derrick Favors and the No. 5 pick). However, the Cavs do have some interest in the Magic's offer of Arron Afflalo, the No. 4 pick and the No. 12 pick."

From this article: https://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11127401/cleveland-cavaliers-torn-draft-first
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If they want to take a risk on Embiid, this is the offer for them. Afflalo replaces Waiters?, they can take Embiid and get a shooter like McDermott at #12. If they don't win the LBJ sweepstakes, it's not a bad deal. But they still don't have a big outside of the often-hurt Varejao.

For Orlando, do they take Wiggins or go with Parker? They desperately need a PF. But you never know; they play small.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];854050 said:
*I'd still like to see Burks with a note on his chest. A combo of him and Wiggins would be slashing heaven. Getting Gordon back to set-shooting 3s would be awesome.

Burks/Wiggins/Hayward >>> dope
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