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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MoTown16 again. Don't worry, I will rep you when I can. And it will be 6 (half of 12) points.
Even thought nobody will wear #12 for the Jazz again, some people wore it before Stockton.
E.C. Coleman (1975-1977)
Fred Saunders (1978)
Marty Byrnes (1979)
Brad Davis (1980)
Carl Nicks (1981)
E.C. Coleman (1975-1977)
Fred Saunders (1978)
Marty Byrnes (1979)
Brad Davis (1980)
Carl Nicks (1981)
In their 12th season (1985-86), the Jazz were 12th in the league in rebounding. Pace Mannion played just shy of 12 (11.8) mpg. Both Mark Eaton and Carey Scurry had PERs that round to 12. The Jazz won their 12th game of a season and went 2-2 when playing on the 12. They had a 1-1 record in games decided by exactly 12 points.
At #12 in the all-time Jazz ranks:
Games: Jeff Hornacek (477)
Minutes: Jeff Hornacek (14730)
Points: Carlos Boozer (6821)
Rebounds: Darrell Griffith (2519)
Assists: Thurl Bailey (1124)
Steals: Rich Kelley (442)
Blocks: Big Al Jefferson (254) - not bad for someone who's at #41 on the minutes played list
Games: Jeff Hornacek (477)
Minutes: Jeff Hornacek (14730)
Points: Carlos Boozer (6821)
Rebounds: Darrell Griffith (2519)
Assists: Thurl Bailey (1124)
Steals: Rich Kelley (442)
Blocks: Big Al Jefferson (254) - not bad for someone who's at #41 on the minutes played list
In their 12th season in Utah (1990-91), the Jazz were 12th in the league in turnovers. Andy Toolson made 12 3-pointers. Chris Munk (yeah, I don't remember him at all either) had 12 FTAs. Tony Brown had 12 turnovers and Dan O'Sullivan had 12 defensive rebounds. Tony Brown also played nearly 12 minutes per game. How's that for a group of mostly unknowns? The Jazz won their 12th game of the season and went 1-2 when playing on the 12, including the playoffs. In games decided by exactly 12 points, the Jazz went 1-2.
E.C. Coleman spent three seasons with the Jazz after being selected from the Rockets in the expansion draft prior to the 1974-75 season. He wore no. 44 with his first team (Rockets) but switched to #12 with the Jazz as the more-experienced Pete Maravich was acquired via trade the same day as the expansion draft. Even though Maravich switched to #7 prior to the 1975-76 season, Coleman stuck with #12 for the rest of his career.
In 1974-75, the Jazz were 12th in the league in rebounding, with Coleman being the leading rebounder. The Jazz twice barely avoided 12-game losing streaks that year. In the losing-streak-ending games, the combined margin of victory was 4, which is a factor of 12.
In 1975-76, the Jazz were 6th in rebounding (6 is a factor of 12). Coleman was 4th on the team in rebounding (factor of 12 again). The team was 12th in turnovers and blocks. Coleman was 3rd (factor of 12) on the team in blocks.
In Coleman's final year with the Jazz (1976-77), the Jazz were 12th in total (but not necessarily average) attendance. The Jazz were also 12th in FTAs, but alas, Coleman was 9th (finally, not a factor of 12). Here's a little preview of tomorrow's countdown thread: Coleman signed with the Warriors after the 76-77 season. The Jazz received a first-round pick as compensation that ended up being #11 overall.
In 1974-75, the Jazz were 12th in the league in rebounding, with Coleman being the leading rebounder. The Jazz twice barely avoided 12-game losing streaks that year. In the losing-streak-ending games, the combined margin of victory was 4, which is a factor of 12.
In 1975-76, the Jazz were 6th in rebounding (6 is a factor of 12). Coleman was 4th on the team in rebounding (factor of 12 again). The team was 12th in turnovers and blocks. Coleman was 3rd (factor of 12) on the team in blocks.
In Coleman's final year with the Jazz (1976-77), the Jazz were 12th in total (but not necessarily average) attendance. The Jazz were also 12th in FTAs, but alas, Coleman was 9th (finally, not a factor of 12). Here's a little preview of tomorrow's countdown thread: Coleman signed with the Warriors after the 76-77 season. The Jazz received a first-round pick as compensation that ended up being #11 overall.
Fred Saunders played 30 games for the Jazz in the 1977-78 season (which would also be his last in the NBA) after being traded to the Jazz by the Celtics. I digress for a moment, but the second-round pick the Jazz sent to the Celtics for Saunders would actually end playing a season for the Jazz just a couple of years later. Anyway, in getting back to Saunders, Fred made 12 FTs with the Jazz, and his PER with the Jazz (11.8) rounds to 12.
Marty Byrnes was traded to the Jazz by the Phoenix Suns on January 12, 1979 (his rookie season) with Ron Lee and two future first-round picks for Truck Robinson (who wore #21, the opposite of 12, with the Jazz). Byrnes had 12 steals in his brief tenure with the Jazz. Exactly 9 months after trading for Byrnes, the Jazz waived him on October 12, 1979. Don't feel bad for him though. He signed with the Lakers and led them to the 1980 NBA championship with 4 (factor of 12) dominating playoff appearances. His NBA career ended with the Pacers in 1982-83, when he started 12 games.
Brad Davis signed with the Jazz in 1980 on a day that comes around every 4 (factor of 12) years: February 29. He finished the year with the Jazz and had 12 FTAs (making 10) and was 12th on the team in 3PAs and total steals. He was waived by the Jazz prior to the next season and signed with the Dallas, where he spent 12 seasons.
theNBAnerd
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john stockton finished in the top 4 for assists 12 times in his career. his career average of assists was almost exactly 12 per 36 minutes (11.9). he also wore #12 for more years than any other player in NBA/ABA history combined.
derek harper wore #12 for his whole career. maybe that's why he opted out of a trade to utah during the finals years ("you go live in utah"), because he didn't want to give up his jersey number. more on that tomorrow, i have a transactions-that-never-were theme for #11.
kevin martin wore #12 for the rockets before he was traded to toronto in a 3-team trade on september 19, 2012 that put al jefferson in houston and brought jose calderon and terrence jones to utah. (this paragraph was brought to you by my own wishful thinking.)
derek harper wore #12 for his whole career. maybe that's why he opted out of a trade to utah during the finals years ("you go live in utah"), because he didn't want to give up his jersey number. more on that tomorrow, i have a transactions-that-never-were theme for #11.
kevin martin wore #12 for the rockets before he was traded to toronto in a 3-team trade on september 19, 2012 that put al jefferson in houston and brought jose calderon and terrence jones to utah. (this paragraph was brought to you by my own wishful thinking.)
The Jazz acquired Carl Nicks from the Nuggets in December (12th month of the year) 1980 in exchange for Billy McKinney. As a result of being traded and healthy, McKinney was able to play in a league-leading 84 (multiple of 12) regular season games in that 1980-81 season. Meanwhile, Nicks had a PER of 12 (11.7) in his time with the Jazz that year. His PER dropped to 10.5 the following season after he switched to #22.
That ought to be interesting.
The Jazz have had only one winning streak of exactly 12 games. It ran from February 11 to March 10, 2009. In the first game, which was against the Lakers, Lamar Odom had a monster rebounding night, with 12 defensive rebounds. The Jazz bench combined for 12 rebounds. Matt Harpring's +/- for the game was -12. After the Jazz won, they still had 12 less wins than the Lakers. The Lakers had 42 wins and the Jazz had 30.
In the last game of the streak, the Jazz fittingly beat the Pacers by 12 points. D-Will had 12 assists, the Jazz had 12 offensive rebounds, and Brevin Knight played just shy of 12 minutes. Roy Hibbert chipped in 12 points for the Pacers.
In the last game of the streak, the Jazz fittingly beat the Pacers by 12 points. D-Will had 12 assists, the Jazz had 12 offensive rebounds, and Brevin Knight played just shy of 12 minutes. Roy Hibbert chipped in 12 points for the Pacers.
Including the playoffs, Stockton had 656 games with 12 or more assists.
Stockton had 7 double-digit streaks of games with 12 or more assists. During the longest such streak (15 games from 2/5/1990-3/9/1990), the Jazz nearly won 12 of the 15 games. They won 11, with the closest loss being by 1 point to the Heat on 3/5/1990. In that game, Stockton had 21 points (12 reversed) and 12 FTAs while the team pulled down 12 offensive rebounds. The Heat had 12 steals. The Heat came into the game with 12 wins on the season.
Mark Eaton had 2 games with 12 or more blocks. In one of those games, on November 1, 1986 he had 12 defensive rebounds and finished the game with an impressive statline of 15 points, 20 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and the 12 blocks with only 1 turnover. The only issue is that his shooting was as horrible as his defense was excellent. He made 4 out of 18 FGAs.
The Jazz selected Alec Burks with the 12th pick in the 2011 draft. Burks made 12 FTs in the playoffs. His career high for FGAs is 12.
mellow
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Last Season.....
Randy Foye –Started 12 games as a rookie in 2006-07, last season it took him 9 games to total 12 assists.
Mo Williams --made 12 3pt shots in the playoffs (36%)
Earl Watson—Turned 33 on June 12th. Never scored 12 pts in a game last year. Made the 12th most fgs on the team. If he plays this year it will be his 12th season.
Jamal Tinsley—had 12 assists in the playoffs last year. Played the 12th most minutes for the Jazz, attempted the 12th most fgs.
Alec Burks—Was the 12th pick in the 2011 draft. And made 12 fts in the playoffs.
Gordon Hayward- Shot 12 for 12 from the ft line in game one of the playoffs. The Spurs shut him down for the next three games, he only scored 12 points more in the series.
Kevin Murphy -- attempted 12 three point shots and made 7 of them as his Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles lost to #12 Murray State.
Jeremy Evans—of his 29 game appearances 12 were under 3:30 minutes played. He went 12 days between games in February but did accomplish something noteworth during that stretch.
Paul Milsap had a 112 turnovers.
Al Jefferson Made and attempted the 12th most 3-point fgs on the jazz (1-4)
Enes Kanter Shot the 12th worst FT% on the jazz.
Derrick Favors Was 12-0 in his 9 starts last season. (Check that, some of the board enthusiasm got to me)
DeMare Carroll Made the 12th most fts (14)
Roger Braile Played the 12th most games.
Josh Howard was the 12th youngest Jazzman.
Randy Foye –Started 12 games as a rookie in 2006-07, last season it took him 9 games to total 12 assists.
Mo Williams --made 12 3pt shots in the playoffs (36%)
Earl Watson—Turned 33 on June 12th. Never scored 12 pts in a game last year. Made the 12th most fgs on the team. If he plays this year it will be his 12th season.
Jamal Tinsley—had 12 assists in the playoffs last year. Played the 12th most minutes for the Jazz, attempted the 12th most fgs.
Alec Burks—Was the 12th pick in the 2011 draft. And made 12 fts in the playoffs.
Gordon Hayward- Shot 12 for 12 from the ft line in game one of the playoffs. The Spurs shut him down for the next three games, he only scored 12 points more in the series.
Kevin Murphy -- attempted 12 three point shots and made 7 of them as his Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles lost to #12 Murray State.
Jeremy Evans—of his 29 game appearances 12 were under 3:30 minutes played. He went 12 days between games in February but did accomplish something noteworth during that stretch.
Paul Milsap had a 112 turnovers.
Al Jefferson Made and attempted the 12th most 3-point fgs on the jazz (1-4)
Enes Kanter Shot the 12th worst FT% on the jazz.
Derrick Favors Was 12-0 in his 9 starts last season. (Check that, some of the board enthusiasm got to me)
DeMare Carroll Made the 12th most fts (14)
Roger Braile Played the 12th most games.
Josh Howard was the 12th youngest Jazzman.