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fishonjazz

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I have been wanting to make this thread for a while but have not had time. Surprised that someone else didnt already make it tbphwy.

Some of my grades have to do with expectations and some dont.


Gobert: (A+) I remember watching him at the jazz scrimmage i went to and just gushing about him during and after. There was no burks, hayward, kanter, or favors at the scrimmage and Gobert shined SO bright amongst all the scrubs. He covered so much ground on defense. He was everywhere. He was extremely intense and passionate during every minute of a the scrimmage. Never let of the intensity gas pedal while the game was going. Then when the game would stop he would flip a switch and start smiling and joking with teammates. All the guys loved him and his intensity was contagious. I knew right then we had something special.
Then he blew us all away during the season.

Favors: (B+) Favors improved in most all aspects of his game. Always solid, mostly gets his numbers quietly, efficient, a neccessary piece to win games. Wish he was more alpha than he is thoug.

Hayward: (A-) hayward got the huge contract, i puked and then got over it, hayward mostly lived up to the contract. He had a few slumps but was our best player overall and put up an all star worthy season.

Burks: (Incomplete) If i had to give him a grade its probably a C or C-. He didnt attack as much as normal and was not finishing at a very high rate. was not getting to the line as much. Still struggling on defense and taking long two's. hit his free throws and 3's at career high percentages though and seemed to try to play in the system.

Exum: (D+) Good defense, horrible offense. He is young and was not ready for the nba. Impressed that he played in all 82 games though.

Trey: (C-) Would have been a worse grade but he took his benching with class and seemed to improve a bit after it. had some pretty big games scattered among lots of crappy ones.

Ingles: (B) I expected total garbage from him and early on that is what he was. He made huge improvements as the season went along though and is easily the funniest player on the team. Great glue guy. I was always amazed at how good he was when he was the only one back on defense and the opposition had numbers in a fast break situation. He often stopped the other team from scoring (without fouling) in those situations which is very hard to do.

Millsap: (D+) He is what he is. A d-leaguer getting by on hustle, heart, and defense. Good for him. Hopefully he wont be good enough (due to having our other guys be too good) to crack the rotation next year. (maybe im too hard on him. i actually like him ok)

Hood: (B) I had low expectations and he did have some rough patches (and injuries) but by the end of the year he looked like one of our better players and at times the jazz ran the offense through him to alot of success. Great pick at 21.

Booker: (C+ or B-) i cant decide. Booker was a fan favorite providing toughness, kanter hate, lots of good dunks, hustle and the occasional three pointer.

Kanter: **** him.


Snyder: (A) He changed the culture of the team around, was not scared to try new approaches with lineups and schemes, always adjusting, and looked like a crazed cyborg often. We all love him right?

(not giving grades to the rest of the guys like cooley, cotton, evans, johnson, etc cause they didn't matter enough...... I dont think i forgot anyone important did I?)


I think the next couple of years will be some of the most memorable of my 30+ years of jazz fandom. Im so excited and cant wait.
 
Fishonjazz: F. He took too long to post his season grades and we haven't seen enough intoxicated posts lately. Certainly room for improvement but he has high potential.
 
Fishonjazz: F. He took too long to post his season grades and we haven't seen enough intoxicated posts lately. Certainly room for improvement but he has high potential.
OG A+ cause this post is full of awesome.
 
I would like to see other jazzfanz opinions on what they would grade the jazz players.

So if ya have the time post em here please
 
Agree with the grades. Pretty much spot on. As pleasantly surprised as I was with Gobert, I was unpleasantly surprised by Exum. Was much worse than I expected, but he did show some improvement at the end of the year. If he works extremely hard during the off season and if has has as good of a basketball IQ as they said he has when he was drafted, there is still hope. He's still got good potential.
 
Agree with the grades. Pretty much spot on. As pleasantly surprised as I was with Gobert, I was unpleasantly surprised by Exum. Was much worse than I expected, but he did show some improvement at the end of the year. If he works extremely hard during the off season and if has has as good of a basketball IQ as they said he has when he was drafted, there is still hope. He's still got good potential.

Gobert A-
Favors A-
Hayward A
Burks C+
Burke D
Exum B- I liked the way he embarassed DWill
Sap C+ needs to shoot better or bye bye
JIngles A
Hood A
Cotton B+ (The guy can ball)
Johnson B-
Cooley C+ Probably gone next year
Booker B+
Other players cut D
Snyder B+ Changed the culture but I was troubled by some close losses.
 
Gobert A+: Couldn't foresee the season he had.
Favors A: I think he was our best most consistent player all year. Not nearly enough credit for what he brings
Hayward A: In the argument for best player. Deserves the contract I hated when he signed it
Hood B+: Would be an A but he just didn't play enough
Exum B-: Love his defense and that he was smart enough not to play over his head. Needs a lot of work but was good enough for now.
Burks Inc.: Really can't judge him. The team was a mess when he was healthy. Trying to learn the system.
Burke D: Was given the reigns and failed. Only reason this is not an F is because of the way he handled the benching.
Jingles B-: Makes the most of his talent and is a glue guy for this team. I see him as a rotation player going forward.
Millsap D: I was excited for him at first. Just not that good on offense and defensively makes too many dumb fouls.
Booker B-: Limited talent. But you got to love the hustle. And his hustle energizes the team.
Kanter F-: Complete and total fail.
Deep bench D: Outside of cotton I don't see any talent there. If Cotton was not in this group it would be an F
Snyder A-: This would be an A+. But it took a while for them to gel as a team and I'm holding that against him a little bit. Giving Kanter so many chances also hurt him a little bit in my book.
 
Exum was drafted as a project and was able to hold his own starting for a team that won a lot of games against some of the best competition in the league. His 3 point shooting was better than most people expected, so I'd give him a D offensively and an A defensively. C+ or B- overall. Otherwise, I can't complain too much. Good post.
 
I was unpleasantly surprised by Exum. Was much worse than I expected, .

I think you and a lot of others just had unrealistic expectations. Not many kids come right out of high school to dominate in the NBA. His defense was very good and he played within his limitations on the offensive end. Utah won a lot of games with this kid, and you can't argue with results.
 
Gobert A+: I realize an A+ is a crazy high grade to give, but the dude changed the team when he was given the starting gig. He gives the team a strong identity. The improvement from last season to this is unbelievable.
Favors A-: Favors may be a quiet guy, but he is easily the most reliable player on the team. His points were always quiet, but his impact on defense is huge. Glad to see him playing at PF instead of Center. His jump shot cannot be undervalued. Felt like he was money when he took the open jumper.
Hayward A-: I will admit that I was not happy when Hayward got his contract. I thought the Jazz way overpaid, and maybe they did. But his impact on the team cannot be understated. He did have his slumps, but he had a fantastic season and kept the team going.
Burks Incomplete: He didn't have a great season, although he did improve his 3 point shooting. Hoping his lack of attacking this season is all due to injury.
Burke D: He regressed in just about everyway this season. I loved how well he handled his benching, but too many times he would continue to shoot when his shot was just gone.
Exum C: I give him a C because I wasn't expecting him to do much at all this year. He played good to great defense but was non existent on offense.
Hood B+: If it werent for his injuries I'd give him an A. Looks like he could be the steal of the draft, very smart player. Might be because he played more years at college instead of 1 and done?
Ingles B: Slow mo Jo had a pretty solid year, way better than expected. Ended up shooting good from 3. Smart passer and a decent defender.
Booker B-: Great energy guy. Seemed like he would fade at times in games. Loved the fire he brought to the locker room
Snyder A: This guy changed the team's identity in less than one season. Worst defense in the league to one of the best in the second half of the season. Incredibly impressive. Then you remember how many rookie/2nd year guys AND D leaguers were playing and it really stands out how smart our coach is.
 
Wow, Hayward with an A that is a joke. He started out the season aggressive sure. But, once everyone got going he faded quickly. If that is what you ask from your highest paid player on the team then I don't see how more overrated role players aren't lining up at our doors.
 
I only gave Gobert an A- because of his offense. He still has a lot to learn there and I think NBA teams will have him scouted better next year than they did this year.
 
Gobert: A
Hayward: A
Favors: B+
Hood: B-
Booker: C+
Cotton: C
Exum: C
Ingles: C
Millsap: C
Evans: C
Burke: D+
Burks: Truancy

Snyder: B+ (he played Kanter over Gobert for way too long)
 
Gobert: A
Hayward: A-
Favors: B
Hood: B
Booker: C
Cotton: C-
Exum: D
Ingles: B
Millsap: D
Evans: D
Burke: D-

Snyder: B
 
His jump shot cannot be undervalued. Felt like he was money when he took the open jumper.
Good call. I should have mentioned that about favors. Probably his biggest improvement
 
Gobert: A
Hayward: A
Favors: B+
Hood: B-
Booker: C+
Cotton: C
Exum: C
Ingles: C
Millsap: C
Evans: C
Burke: D+
Burks: Truancy

Snyder: B+ (he played Kanter over Gobert for way too long)

Good post and good point about Snyder
 
Only disagree on a couple. I think Booker is a solid B. He added some "nasty" which spread to others and did what we expected as a sub. The volleyball shot will forever be one of my favorites. And extra credit for cutting Kanter down to size with his remarks.

Elijah gets at least a C+, IMO. We knew he wasn't a shooter. But he gave us everything he had on the defensive end. Limited talent but HUGE heart.

Agree on in the rest, including the incomplete for Burks. Alec improved his 3PT shooting but I suspect the lower percentage around the rim was directly connected to his shoulder injury.
 
good point about Snyder

I don't think so. Utah was trying to keep Kanter's trade value out of the gutter. If he gets sent to the bench and never has games like those 17/24 & 16/23 nights, we might have ended up dumping him for even less than we got. Also, I still think they were trying to keep him placated long enough to go into the offseason and hopefully get him signed long term, which would have made him considerably more valuable as an asset. I don't think it was a given that he was getting dumped at the deadline, had he not made the trade demand. Even the assets Utah brought back in the Kanter trade point to the fact Utah was not making moves to win immediately.
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I guess if you believe the coach is always just trying to win the game in front of him, then Snyder should be criticized for that. I don't really think that's the case here, as I believe Snyder was trying to be on the same page as DL.
 
I don't think so. Utah was trying to keep Kanter's trade value out of the gutter. If he gets sent to the bench and never has games like those 17/24 & 16/23 nights, we might have ended up dumping him for even less than we got. Also, I still think they were trying to keep him placated long enough to go into the offseason and hopefully get him signed long term, which would have made him considerably more valuable as an asset. I don't think it was a given that he was getting dumped at the deadline, had he not made the trade demand. Even the assets Utah brought back in the Kanter trade point to the fact Utah was not making moves to win immediately.
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I guess if you believe the coach is always just trying to win the game in front of him, then Snyder should be criticized for that. I don't really think that's the case here, as I believe Snyder was trying to be on the same page as DL.
True
 
I base my grades on expectations before the season, not against what other players in the league are doing.

Gobert - A++ - he gobliderated my expectation for him
Hayward - A - He lived up to his contract and keeps getting better
Favors A - He was a good steady all season and improved more offensively than I thought he would.
Exum C - He was much better defensively and much worse offensively than I expected.
Hood B - If not for the slow start and injuries I would go A. The end of the season was quite impressive.
Booker A - I was hoping for an okay role player, he was a great role player and brought the fire.
Ingles B+ - He exceeded what I thought slowsky would be capable of. Many smart and effective moments for him.
Kanter F--- - He was ok and had his usual lack of D.... then had a nuclear reactor meltdown. He is dead to me.
All others - C- Look, our bench was out played all season. Not acceptable. I won't bother singling out Burke.
 
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