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Hack said:
Dont jump off the ledge yet. Its just over a 3rd of the way we have the most losses so far. Its not a lost cause.
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The Thriller said:
If the #5 pick is now considered "optimistic" then we really need to reexamine our definition of tanks.

To me, if we aren't going to tank then it's time to trade Kanter and other pieces for vets for a playoff push so we can get our asses kicked by SA, Porty, or okc.

I'm not seeing a tank job nor any effort to develop the young players. If this is going to be the last year we have Corbin, Marvin, Jefferson, and Hayward, we might as well use them for all they're worth and give them the 8th seed they so much desire.

I literally cannot think of another more infuriating jazz season. If it weren't for the 2 New York dumpster fires, I would call our franchise the most dysfunctional in the NBA. A lame duck coach who is trying out for other teams. A bunch of vets seeking contract extensions. A bunch of kids riding the bench. And an ownership team that doesn't know what the hell they're doing. They've completely abandoned the plan that they had committed to at the end of last season

As fans.... What keeps us going? The hope of obtaining another role player this draft? One that will take Hayward's place? Oh joy. Another 5 years of mid teen picks?

If you're going to tank then do it right.
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But then again, there is also alot of truth in this
 
sgjazzfan said:
We still have a pretty tough schedule.
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We have played the toughest schedule in the league so far......... it only gets easier the rest of the way.
 
I could see the jazz pulling a Mike Shanahan--RG3 type move when the draft rolls around... Throwing the whole team at whoever has the third or fourth spot in order to move up just a couple spots... Jabari is our Rg3

Probably

Our pick
GS pick
Kanter / Burks
Next years pick
GS pick next year
Neto

And we'd probably have to take on a terrible contract as well... But anything would be worth building around Hayward Favors Burke Jabari core
 
The-Joker said:
I could see the jazz pulling a Mike Shanahan--RG3 type move when the draft rolls around... Throwing the whole team at whoever has the third or fourth spot in order to move up just a couple spots... Jabari is our Rg3

Probably

Our pick
GS pick
Kanter / Burks
Next years pick
GS pick next year
Neto

And we'd probably have to take on a terrible contract as well... But anything would be worth building around Hayward Favors Burke Jabari core
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That's wishful thinking.

Since the GS trade we have done nothing to suggest that we are tanking. The way this team is being managed, it looks like we are on board for a playoff push.

The time to score Jabari is now. Time to sit guys, time for injuries out of no where it keep key players out, time for trades before the trade deadline...

Then, if all else fails we attempt to trade for Jabari. By then, it might be too late.

Jabari solves literally 99 percent of our issues. Franchise player, shooter, leader, wing, creator, etc... Unfortunately, it does that for most teams drafting in the top 3.
 
Mixed night for the tank. Kings upset the LeBrons at home, Nets finally win. Orlando wins. At the end of the night we are tied for 3rd-6th. We were so close to being tied for 2nd/3rd though.. The tank is such a fragile thing.
 
The-Joker said:
I could see the jazz pulling a Mike Shanahan--RG3 type move when the draft rolls around... Throwing the whole team at whoever has the third or fourth spot in order to move up just a couple spots... Jabari is our Rg3

Probably

Our pick
GS pick
Kanter / Burks
Next years pick
GS pick next year
Neto

And we'd probably have to take on a terrible contract as well... But anything would be worth building around Hayward Favors Burke Jabari core
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We could give up all of that and get jabari.............. or just do what we should be doing and tank properly and get him without giving up any of those guys

I mean jefferson missed practice with a back injury, so its a perfect time to sit him, but he plays anyway.
Burke rolls his ankle in the game, so we could have easily had him miss the rest of the game last night and get a crucial loss, instead he comes back in very quickly and finishes the game

what the jazz are doing (trying to win, when they should be trying to lose) could be said to be honorable or respectable, but honor and respect dont bring as many championships around as talented players does.
 
The Thriller said:
That's wishful thinking.

Since the GS trade we have done nothing to suggest that we are tanking. The way this team is being managed, it looks like we are on board for a playoff push.

The time to score Jabari is now. Time to sit guys, time for injuries out of no where it keep key players out, time for trades before the trade deadline...

Then, if all else fails we attempt to trade for Jabari. By then, it might be too late.

Jabari solves literally 99 percent of our issues. Franchise player, shooter, leader, wing, creator, etc... Unfortunately, it does that for most teams drafting in the top 3.
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We. Signed. John. Lucas. The. Turd.

We were tanking so hard, and now we have to pull some more tank moves. Tank you very much.
 
Hack said:
Dont jump off the ledge yet. Its just over a 3rd of the way we have the most losses so far. Its not a lost cause.
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YET.

The Jazz are still in position to keep this thing in check (thanks in large part to how many teams in the east have to beat each other and that the Jazz would have a tough time finishing higher than 13th in the WC). But they have to DO SOMETHING. Going .500-ish (Jazz are, what, 8-9 since Trey came back?) is certainly not going to get it done.
 
fishonjazz said:
We could give up all of that and get jabari.............. or just do what we should be doing and tank properly and get him without giving up any of those guys

I mean jefferson missed practice with a back injury, so its a perfect time to sit him, but he plays anyway.
Burke rolls his ankle in the game, so we could have easily had him miss the rest of the game last night and get a crucial loss, instead he comes back in very quickly and finishes the game

what the jazz are doing (trying to win, when they should be trying to lose) could be said to be honorable or respectable, but honor and respect dont bring as many championships around as talented players does.
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I don't even think it is dishonorable to be cautious in a season that means little. Why play somebody with a small injury that is vulnerable additional injury when we are not competing. Save that player's health for next season when we can compete. It's not hard to tell the medical staff to be extremely conservative with injuries this year.
 
b_line said:
We. Signed. John. Lucas. The. Turd.

We were tanking so hard, and now we have to pull some more tank moves. Tank you very much.
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Somebody forgot to tell the coach that. If there's going to be some moves made, it will have to come from DL. Ty's trying to win hard to save his job and Burke is his Black Jesus Savior. Hence why we've barely seen JLIII since he came back. The only moves that he has is to trade away Marvin and Jefferson so that it elevates Kanter and either Evans or Burks into starting roles and then forces them to play a bench of Gobert, Biedrins, Harris, Evans/Burks, Garrett and JLIII. Forces the young kids to step up and play together around Burke, but also is probably the worst bench in the league. One or both of those two things could get the tank back on its tracks.
 
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