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14th Tank Platoon

So. The Jazz are 3 wins away from having both 3rd fewest wins, and 11th fewest wins. There are a lot of teams packed into the 3-11 range with just 6 wins separating the two with the Jazz right in the middle of that group.

1-2 wins (or losses however you look at it) will go a long way. Jazz need to do something to be sure they are at the lower end of that group. Having 3 wins be the difference in getting Parker/Wiggins/Embiid vs Gordon/Vonleh, with 3 more wins pushing us to Stauskas/Young/McDermott.
 
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ljnapoli said:
I realized the FO really could have the best of both worlds if they really wanted too. If the reason we aren't tanking is because we want to put bums in seats, why not just go out and get Jimmer and tank simultaneously with Jimmer in the line up.
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Jimmer is kinda double edged sword.
 
Well, the Knicks have now put the Nuggets ahead of us in the tank race. Watch Denver drop another couple spots with their own pick. I think they're joining the tank race. They're going to be players in this lottery.


Case in point: The Nuggets are down by 26 at home in the 2nd quarter to the Nets.
 
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Catchall said:
Well, the Knicks have now put the Nuggets ahead of us in the tank race. Watch Denver drop another couple spots with their own pick. I think they're joining the tank race. They're going to be players in this lottery.


Case in point: The Nuggets are down by 26 at home in the 2nd quarter to the Nets.
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Luckily Denver has 5 games on us. They will either win a few games, or give the other tank teams some wins. If the Jazz continue to win, it won't make a difference. They will get another 3rd option 10-12 in the draft...

Find a way to lose Jazz. Key road games coming up, gotta find a way to lose the ones other than Mil, Sixers (those teams are hopeless, Jazz probably win both even thought they are both 2nd of back/back).
 
Catchall said:
Well, the Knicks have now put the Nuggets ahead of us in the tank race. Watch Denver drop another couple spots with their own pick. I think they're joining the tank race. They're going to be players in this lottery.


Case in point: The Nuggets are down by 26 at home in the 2nd quarter to the Nets.
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Their pick goes to Orlando, so no real reason to tank.
 
Update!

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]Conf.[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]tank alert(last 10 games)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]Milwaukee Bucks[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]11[/td]
[td]46[/td]
[td].193[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]Philadelphia 76ers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]43[/td]
[td].259[/td]
[td]0-10[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]Orlando Magic[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]42[/td]
[td].300[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]L.A. Lakers[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td].328[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]Boston Celtics[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td].339[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Sacramento Kings*6[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]37[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]New York Knicks*2[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]37[/td]
[td].362[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Utah Jazz[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td].368[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]Cleveland Cavaliers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td].390[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]Detroit Pistons*5[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td].397[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]New Orleans Pelicans*1[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]34[/td]
[td].404[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Denver Nuggets*3[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Minnesota Timberwolves*9[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].491[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td].571[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Goden State Warriors: 22nd

On the edge in the West​

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]Last 10 games[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Dallas Mavericks[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td].610[/td]
[td]8-2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]Golden State Warriors[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td].603[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Phoenix Suns[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td].579[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td].571[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]


*1 Philadelphia 76ers: Receives New Orleans Pelicans 2014 first-round pick (1-5 protected in 2014) via Jrue Holiday trade on 7/10/13.

*2 Denver Nuggets: Receives New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Carmelo Anthony trade on 02/22/11.

*3 Orlando Magic: Receives less favorable of Denver Nuggets/New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Dwight Howard trade on 8/10/12.

*4 Phoenix Suns: Receives Washington Wizards 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via Marcin Gortat trade on 8/25/13.

*5 Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Detroit Pistons 2014 first-round pick (1-8 protected in 2014) via Ben Gordon trade on 6/26/12.

*6 Chicago Bulls: Receives Sacramento Kings 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11 to Cleveland. Via Luol Deng trade on 01/06/14

*7 Atlanta Hawks: Has right to swap 2014 first-round pick with Brooklyn Nets via Joe Johnson trade on 7/11/12.

*8 Chicago Bulls: Receives Charlotte’s 2014 first-round pick (1-10 protected in 2014) via Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.

*9 Phoenix Suns: Receives Minnesota Timberwolves 2014 first-round pick (1-13 protected in 2014) via Wesley Johnson trade on 7/27/13.

*10 Utah Jazz: Receive Golden State Warriors 2014 first-round pick (unprotected)


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[tr]
[td]Seed[/td]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]14th[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td].215[/td]
[td].178[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td].199[/td]
[td].188[/td]
[td].171[/td]
[td].319[/td]
[td].123[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].157[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].226[/td]
[td].265[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td].119[/td]
[td].126[/td]
[td].133[/td]
[td].099[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td].160[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td].088[/td]
[td].097[/td]
[td].107[/td]
[td][/td]
[td].261[/td]
[td].360[/td]
[td].084[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].071[/td]
[td].081[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td].305[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td].043[/td]
[td].049[/td]
[td].058[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].529[/td]
[td].232[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td].028[/td]
[td].033[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].724[/td]
[td].168[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td].017[/td]
[td].020[/td]
[td].024[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].813[/td]
[td].122[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td].011[/td]
[td].013[/td]
[td].016[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].870[/td]
[td].089[/td]
[td].002[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].907[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].935[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].960[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td].005[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].982[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Tank Ranking:
1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. Denver Nuggets
3. New York Knicks
4. Milwaukee Bucks
4. L.A. Lakers
4. New Orleans Pelicans


Wins for the worst teams since '03:

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]03/04[/td]
[td]04/05[/td]
[td]05/06[/td]
[td]06/07[/td]
[td]07/08[/td]
[td]08/09[/td]
[td]09/10[/td]
[td]10/11[/td]
[td]12/13[/td]
[td]Average since 2003[/td]
[td]Last 5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]13[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]12[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]17,6[/td]
[td]16,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]20,2[/td]
[td]18,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]23,2[/td]
[td]22,4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4h[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]25,5[/td]
[td]23,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]31[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]26,3[/td]
[td]24,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]28,2[/td]
[td]25,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]30,2[/td]
[td]28,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]34[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]32,1[/td]
[td]30,8[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
 
The last two wins have just killed the tank more than anything so far this season. The Jazz would be sitting pretty solid at the 5th pick and Golden State would only be a half game up on Phoenix for the 8th seed in the West. I hate this season.
 
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