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If Barnes shows what his potential is then he could go #1. Because of this I want UNC defeated ASAP. SO CLOSE TODAY!!!
Barnes appears to me to be the stud you guys are looking to trade the #6 pick for.
 
If Barnes shows what his potential is then he could go #1. Because of this I want UNC defeated ASAP. SO CLOSE TODAY!!!
Barnes appears to me to be the stud you guys are looking to trade the #6 pick for.

Honestly I am not a huge fan of the guy. Only seen him play a few times but he reminds me of Marvin Williams a lot. I don't see anything special in him. Good role player but never an all-star talent.
 
Watched Harrison Barnes again today, still relatively unimpressed. He looks like a late lottery pick to me. No doubt the kid can shoot, and he has good size and good defense. I wouldnt be upset if we took him, but at hopefully we can go for more of a home run. I can see Barnes being a player like Rip Hamilton or something, a really good complimentary player, but never a star. I think his draft stock is only so high at this point because he is still riding the hype of coming in as the #1 high school player.

Who is this "home run" you talk of in this draft? Smith?

I can understand having some doubt in Barnes, but please tell me who doesn't give you any worry? All these picks have some big issues imo.
 
Anyone watching the Arizona/Texas game?

Derrick Williams is a warrior. He's missed some shots, but I love his aggressiveness. He had a clutch play and free-throw at the end, plus defense in the last second. I could see him being an emotional leader for a team.
 
I agree with those that are down on Barnes because he hasn't shown himself to be an all-star talent thus far. Neither has Derrick Favors, but I'm giddy with his potential. Don't know if either of them will realize their potential but at pick 6 you aren't gonna get a home run. This is the draft. Nothing's a sure thing. -- Greg Oden was a sure thing and look how that's turned out. Derrick Williams at least has put up great numbers, but he's not without his flaws either. Fredette's put up big number but no one thinks we should draft him with the 6th pick (well, some maybe but they're wrong).

At pick 6 it's likely that the Jazz will get someone decent. And MAYBE, just maybe, they've got hidden all-star talent in them.
Problem with Barnes is he's not hiding it too well anymore and might play himself into the first pick. I hope he sucks the rest of the way and his team loses to Marquette. Get his *** off the tv.
 
I like Barnes and I think he will be better than Marvin Williams. I think he has a good handle, shoots well, and is an aggressive rebounder. However, I think Derrick Williams will be a better pro. It will be interesting to see if as many freshman come out as people think. If I were Barnes, i would stay in school because there may not be an NBA season next year. If there is an extended lockout, it could ruin a lot of kids careers if they come out too early.
 
I like Barnes and I think he will be better than Marvin Williams. I think he has a good handle, shoots well, and is an aggressive rebounder. However, I think Derrick Williams will be a better pro. It will be interesting to see if as many freshman come out as people think. If I were Barnes, i would stay in school because there may not be an NBA season next year. If there is an extended lockout, it could ruin a lot of kids careers if they come out too early.

They are very, very different players. Barnes is a natural SF in the NBA. He has a lot to learn but he has a natural position.

Derrick Williams is a stuck between positions. He isn't tall enough to be a 4 and will need to develop a lot of perimeter skills to play the 3.
 
Watched Harrison Barnes again today, still relatively unimpressed. He looks like a late lottery pick to me. No doubt the kid can shoot, and he has good size and good defense. I wouldnt be upset if we took him, but at hopefully we can go for more of a home run. I can see Barnes being a player like Rip Hamilton or something, a really good complimentary player, but never a star. I think his draft stock is only so high at this point because he is still riding the hype of coming in as the #1 high school player.

If the Jazz draft a 19-year-old 6' 8" Rip Hamilton with handles, color me ****ing stoked.
 
I like Barnes and I think he will be better than Marvin Williams. I think he has a good handle, shoots well, and is an aggressive rebounder. However, I think Derrick Williams will be a better pro. It will be interesting to see if as many freshman come out as people think. If I were Barnes, i would stay in school because there may not be an NBA season next year. If there is an extended lockout, it could ruin a lot of kids careers if they come out too early.
I think this whole lockout thing is being overblown. If you want to get paid you come out this year regardless. Every first round pick will have an agent to Bankroll them until the season begins. Pippin bottles in the club is not going to wait for most of these guys.
 
I think Barnes will end up like Luol Deng or Allan Houston.

I think D. Williams will end up like Carmello, only more fierce and with less range. He can overpower some of the SFs and blow by some of the combo forwards. I think SF can be a natural position for him, like it is for Ron Artest. There might be a small, remote chance that he busts and ends up like Al Thornton, but I doubt it given that he's too offensively gifted and efficient. He played under a lot of pressure today.
 
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