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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Seem simpler than that to me. These guys are 19 and feel immortal. They believe their stock might go up even farther and they dream of the chance to win a National Championship. The lockout has them wondering if they'll be sitting around doing nothing next year while watching their teammates (who are begging them to stay) fight for glory without them. No poison in the well, just people making decisions.
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Fear of a lockout is too illogical to account for the number of kids pulling out. They would need to believe that there will be no season next year for this to make sense. Even then, anyone scraped through business school would be telling them to take 6-12 guaranteed millions of dollars instead of risking slipping on a banana peel. There's always one knucklehead purist who wants to win one for State U. But for 5 or 6 guys guaranteed to go into the lottery to pull out? That's never happened.
 
billyshelby said:
Fear of a lockout is too illogical to account for the number of kids pulling out. They would need to believe that there will be no season next year for this to make sense. Even then, anyone scraped through business school would be telling them to take 6-12 guaranteed millions of dollars instead of risking slipping on a banana peel. There's always one knucklehead purist who wants to win one for State U. But for 5 or 6 guys guaranteed to go into the lottery to pull out? That's never happened.
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These kids probably heard how Utah's gonna have two lottery picks.

Have any white guys pulled out?
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
These kids probably heard how Utah's gonna have two lottery picks.

Have any white guys pulled out?
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Zeller! Ok top 12 is a little high for him, but he would have been great here. Game very similar to Ed Davis as a matter of fact who we considered heavily drafting last year.
 
NCJazz said:
Zeller! Ok top 12 is a little high for him, but he would have been great here. Game very similar to Ed Davis as a matter of fact who we considered heavily drafting last year.
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I really like Zeller. And Henson. If we get lucky and get a top three pick and can get Irving or Williams somehow, and later no one jumps out at us at 12, I'd love to trade it to someone for their 1st next year when it could and should be a better draft and when we could possibly have three lottery picks.
 
I'm a huge fan of Zeller, but he plays nothing like Ed Davis. Davis was mainly athleticism whereas Zeller is mainly good moves and smarts. They are both very good floor runners though.
 
billyshelby said:
Fear of a lockout is too illogical to account for the number of kids pulling out. They would need to believe that there will be no season next year for this to make sense. Even then, anyone scraped through business school would be telling them to take 6-12 guaranteed millions of dollars instead of risking slipping on a banana peel. There's always one knucklehead purist who wants to win one for State U. But for 5 or 6 guys guaranteed to go into the lottery to pull out? That's never happened.
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So if any moron can easily explain to them why they should declare for the draft, what are you assuming the player's association is capable of telling them that "poisons the well." I think the knucklehead purist has a better argument than the player's union, so I think that explanation makes more sense.
 
Xthren said:
Watch the jazz actually win the lottery #3 and we have to draft biyombo because everyone pulls out
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If Utah ends up with him, regardless of the pick, I will immediately start may campaign to draft Myck Kabongo. If we could pull it off, we might be able to pool our money together and bring Hot Rod out of retirement.

Imagine a liquored up Hot Rod trying to say Kabongo to Biyombo a dozen times a game. That's a hell of a lot better than fry sauce.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
So if any moron can easily explain to them why they should declare for the draft, what are you assuming the player's association is capable of telling them that "poisons the well." I think the knucklehead purist has a better argument than the player's union, so I think that explanation makes more sense.
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Just for clarification, we're talking about guaranteed lottery kids.

If the NBAPA wanted to poison the well, they would need to do two things. First, tell any of these kids seeking advisement that they expect a season long lockout. That's not technically a lie and an argument could be made it's honest. What I wonder is if they then launch into a sales pitch about the importance of returning to school and honing their skills. THAT would be the NBAPA acting in its own interest at the expense of people it will theoretically be protecting in the near future.

And just to be clear, anyone who is a guaranteed lottery pick is a fool not to declare. But I'm guessing you've got a brilliant argument why not securing 6 to 12 million dollars is better than the risk you'll never get a penny of it.
 
I am with billyshelby. They need to take the money. No to mention agents will be giving these kids loans to live on until they get their contract signed they won't be with out money.
 
freakazoid said:
If Utah ends up with him, regardless of the pick, I will immediately start may campaign to draft Myck Kabongo. If we could pull it off, we might be able to pool our money together and bring Hot Rod out of retirement.

Imagine a liquored up Hot Rod trying to say Kabongo to Biyombo a dozen times a game. That's a hell of a lot better than fry sauce.
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Or one of the Lithuanians. That would be quite entertaining. Of course I dont think Harpring will ever pronounce them rights. He is horrible with intl names.
 
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