Not to mention their shoe contracts and what not. I could see a guy like Perry Jones who would have probably gone top 5 go like 15 next year as long as new CBA does not make them wait until after Soph. year.
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Not to mention their shoe contracts and what not. I could see a guy like Perry Jones who would have probably gone top 5 go like 15 next year as long as new CBA does not make them wait until after Soph. year.
billyshelby
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Not picking on you, but this is missing the point. But lets use Perry Jones as an example. Absolutely nobody thinks he will fall out of the top 14. At 14, a three year guaranteed deal makes him 5 million plus. If he miraculously went first, he'd make 14 on his guaranteed 3. No first round player is guaranteed more than 3 years, but I'd estimate 90% of lottery picks get their RFA options picked up. That's another 2 to 8 million dollars depending on who you are.
So as a lottery pick, the absolute worst thing that can happen to you is you get paid 5 to over 20 million dollars doing what you love with absolutely no risk.
The problem in the Perry Jones example is the risk isn't he falls to 15. The lesser risk is he falls out of the first round. No guaranteed contract, he has to win a job. The bigger risk is he injures himself. And if he injures himself bad enough, he'll never play pro ball, or maybe claw his way in as an RFA making the minimum.
In that scenario, he would have went back to college to win one for State U and spend the rest of his life wondering what it would have been like if he had taken 10 million dollars when it was staring him in the face.
Joe Bagadonuts
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I totally agree that it's foolish not to take the money, but I disagree that the player's association is the reason these players are pulling out. It's not as if the same number of players aren't going to get drafted either way, so why would they care? What does the NBAPA have to gain? The players really are knuckleheads to be falling for the purist's arguments, but I think that's what must be happening. Maybe there's a little under the table booster money that's greasing the skids.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Espn just reported Perry Jones is going to return for his sophomore season at Baylor.
margodydek
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Lloyd: [sees framed newspaper article about moon landing] No Way! That's Great...
[chuckles]
Lloyd: WE'VE LANDED ON THE MOON!
Chad Feldheimer
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Seems like the 2012 draft is shaping up be much much stronger than the 2011.
At least we have Golden State's first round pick next year (think it was top 6 or 7 protected though) as part of the DWill trade. If it is a deep enough draft, that pick might be pretty good.
Saw an interview where Bismack said his father's favorite player was Karl Malone *jazzfanz's members wet pants*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvdlCXWngjI
There is the interview for anyone interested. I getting some of the Biyombo fever myself, I say if we cant get Dwill/Irving/Barnes, this guy should be 4th on our board. You can never go wrong with stacking your team with physical big men.
There is the interview for anyone interested. I getting some of the Biyombo fever myself, I say if we cant get Dwill/Irving/Barnes, this guy should be 4th on our board. You can never go wrong with stacking your team with physical big men.
billyshelby
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The only angle I see is NBAPA leadership thinking that diluting the draft will force owners to make concessions and resolve the dispute on time. The draft is June 23rd. The CBA runs out on June 30th. I agree it's not a great angle to play since they would be angering their power base--the small market teams that largely comprise the lottery. But somebody is giving these kids bad advice. The only argument that I can think of which would justify going back to school is they will lose whatever money they would have made during the lockout. But for lottery kids, that means losing a few million off the top of the pile.
Have you ever thought money isnt everything to these kids? Maybe they enjoy college life? Maybe they enjoy playing for their college team? Maybe they enjoy getting an education? Maybe they have enough confidence in themselves to improve their game and their draft stock? Maybe they dont feel they are NBA ready yet?
billyshelby
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I don't dispute stupidity as being part of the equation. I just question the coincidence of seeing so many kids in one draft year making stupid decisions. Everything you just listed is the emotional argument that sells papers but makes no rational sense. I loved college. I would have left in a heartbeat if somebody offered me 5 million dollars to do what I loved. They can all get paid handsomely to work on their game in the pros whether they're ready or not. Improve their draft stock? To risk everything for a few more million dollars? And winning one for the gipper is the least sensible reason.