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Donatas will be an offensive stud. I really like his moxie there. I loved him last year but he's sort of old news this year. His defense wasn't especially good last year and maybe it hasn't improved at all - which isn't a good sign. But still he's definitely someone to consider with the 6th pick.

I think he's a PF. At center the Jazz would get killed IMO. You'd have to play him at the 4 and put Favors at the 5. Not ideal. but maybe it could work I dunno. I just want the jazz to try out having a strong defensive frontline. I'm not as worried about the backcourt, which is why I don't have a problem with Fredette there.
 
BENTLEY said:
Donatas will be an offensive stud. I really like his moxie there. I loved him last year but he's sort of old news this year. His defense wasn't especially good last year and maybe it hasn't improved at all - which isn't a good sign. But still he's definitely someone to consider with the 6th pick.

I think he's a PF. At center the Jazz would get killed IMO. You'd have to play him at the 4 and put Favors at the 5. Not ideal. but maybe it could work I dunno. I just want the jazz to try out having a strong defensive frontline. I'm not as worried about the backcourt, which is why I don't have a problem with Fredette there.
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I would much rather have Donatas than Valanciunas. Not quite sure how we'd work it, (most likely a 3 man rotation of Al, Favors, and Donatas - sorry Millsap, it's SF or bust for you), but I'd rather have a poor mans Barnagni than a rich man's Koufos.
 
While I am high on Jonas Valaciunas ( big men who have shown- hands, work ethic and a soft touch are rare), Donatas Moj. has so much more potential. But out of all the foreign players I go

1. Motiejunas-
2. Biyombo
3. Kanter
4. Valaciunas
5. Vesely
 
I only saw one game in the tourney of his, but Darius Morris out of Michigan impressed me as a distributor with size and athleticism. I vote for him at 12 2X over The Jimmer. Granted, that's if we don't pick TJones or some other bigger guy who we may think is BPA.
 
guys, you're underrating kanter... he will be a similar player to boozer, but with more size and at least average defense. he's going to be a 20-10 player in this league. it's time to move harris and jeffersen for a valuable small forward or shooting guard and point guard and build around the cornerstone of kanter, favors and the new aquired solid point guard. this team could be a very solid team within 2-3 years. bring millsap of the bench and try to sign ak for a 3-4 year contract, 6 millions/year. that's how we should rebuild.

c-favors - elson
pf-kanter - millsap
sf-kirilenko - cj
sg-new guy - hayward
pg-new guy - watson
 
Catchall said:
Do you think Montiejunas could play center? In other words, we could have Jefferson and Favors in the pivot on offense and have Montiejunas in the lane on defense, similar to what the Jazz tried to do with Okur. The question is whether Montiejunas will play defense and rebound at least as well as, say, a Pau Gasol, something Okur really couldn't do consistently.
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Great question. I was only watching game film and not looking at his measurments. I found out that watching euro games and under 18 games is hard because the guys are young and nearly everyone is thin. I think Monti is only 230 or something, that might be a problem. Offensivley he could play the C in the Jazz system because he can hit the three, pass from the high post and put the ball on the floor if needed. Defensivley uh.....he can jump, but he's not a banger. The biggest thing for me is he played aggressive and forced the game to change around him, if he would do that on defense then he will be fine.
 
underKANTER said:
guys, you're underrating kanter... he will be a similar player to boozer, but with more size and at least average defense. he's going to be a 20-10 player in this league. it's time to move harris and jeffersen for a valuable small forward or shooting guard and point guard and build around the cornerstone of kanter, favors and the new aquired solid point guard. this team could be a very solid team within 2-3 years. bring millsap of the bench and try to sign ak for a 3-4 year contract, 6 millions/year. that's how we should rebuild.

c-favors - elson
pf-kanter - millsap
sf-kirilenko - cj
sg-new guy - hayward
pg-new guy - watson
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Please explain your name or GTFO.
 
Underkanter,

With "new guy," "new guy," AK, and rookie Kanter, we're sure to be ****ing set. My personal fave is having "new guy" ahead of Hayward on the depth chart. Moran.
 
mellow said:
Didn't say either was better, but they match up differently. When I watched the two games I saw the 2010 USA class challenging more shots at the rim even though Kanter killed them. Bismak doesn't play like Kanter and I think Barnes & Jones in particular would've matched up well against Bismak. If he didn't show as well he would not have bursted into the lottery. Of course he might've killed them too, and then he would be a top 3 pick. I just didn't see it.


Thats a really good point. I could've been watching the dudes very first game in spain....tracking progression is hard with half an hour and you-tube. I'll have to look at what game I watched. Like I said he is difficult to figure out, I had him as 2 or 3 till I watched the Spain game, but even that was based on his athletism, and I am just not a fan of picking athletes and teaching them basketball--it usaully doesn't yield results. So I put him #5.
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Fran Fraschilla agrees with you. Does not see Bismack as good as Ibaka and has him as the fifth ranked intl player.
 
My international top 5
1. Biyombo- Athletic, already a defensive stud, excellent rebounder, very physical and long, dunks everything, also very young, ? about his O, very limited outside of dunking but his post moves at the Nike Summit were actually pretty impressive to me at least. Reminds me of Ibaka
2. Kanter- Big bruiser, but not very athletic, very young, great rebounder but ? about his D and knees and athleticism. I like the Boozer comparison
3. Donatas- Best offensive game, very crafty and skilled, athletic, can pass, can stroke it run the floor, ? about strength and D. Reminds me of a quicker Memo with guard skills
4. Vessely- Dunks everything, great size and length for SF, hustle guy, high energy, ? about shooting, weight. Reminds me of AK
5. Jonas- Efficient on O, great length and heigth, very young, high potential, looks like a stiff to me, not really athletic and can't defend the post or hold his post position on offense. Looks lost on the court and reminds me of a much skinnier Kosta

So who do the Jazz really need? IMO, the Jazz need either a defensive guy like Biyombo or a big that can stretch the floor for Favors/Al which would be Donatas. Kanter would be a solid pick too but would probably trade Millsap if we picked Kanter
 
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