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underKANTER said:
unfortunately, he's one of the smartest guys in the draft with a very high iq. so, this won't happen. but i think he is much more athletic than advertised and if he's hundred percent, he is quite an athlete for a guy of his size.
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I agree that it's unfortunate.
 
he only average things are his lateral movement and leaping ability.
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If that's Kanter that you're describing then I fully endorse NOT drafting him.

Didn't we learn our lesson with Memo, Collins, and Boozer?

We need guys down low that aren't liabilities on defense. We need them to help defend the speedy quick guards and to protect the rim.

Cool! He might be able to score maybe! But that's not what wins championships. If the Boozer, Memo, and Deron era didn't teach you that, then I don't think you'll ever learn.
 
The Thriller said:
If that's Kanter that you're describing then I fully endorse NOT drafting him.

Didn't we learn our lesson with Memo, Collins, and Boozer?

We need guys down low that aren't liabilities on defense. We need them to help defend the speedy quick guards and to protect the rim.

Cool! He might be able to score maybe! But that's not what wins championships. If the Boozer, Memo, and Deron era didn't teach you that, then I don't think you'll ever learn.
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I'm not an advocate for Kanter (jury's still out on him), but I wouldn't go so far as to say you need a big guy who has lateral quickness and can jump to be a good interior defender. Duncan is probably one of the best interior defenders of the last 10-15 yrs and he has as much athletic ability as Memo. I'd say footwork and positioning are much more important than athletic ability on defense (this is why I think Gordo's a good defender). Another example would be Marc Gasol. Granted when you hear his name "defense" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I bet you wouldn't complain if he were your starting center, as he does a decent enough job of clogging the lane and staying in front of his man.
 
i might be a homer of kanter, but i'd like us to rebuilt with a front court of kanter and favors and millsap coming of the bench. we should realy use jefferson and harris for a solid starter point guard and a wing.

but you still don't get it. kanter has solid overall athleticizm. jumping high and blocking shots doesn't make you a great defender. it also takes thoughness, hustle, a big body and intelligence to become a good defender. the willingness, the awareness. kanter was described as a solid defender with his intelligence and i think he could become a solid defender in this league, believe me, he will be far better than boozer or memo on this side of the floor. next to favors, they might become a solid duo that can play both, defense and offense.

there are examples where over-athletic players seem to be thin and get overpowered by bigger players. also players that can leap like the hell but still not block a shot (like griffin as an example). you need also timing to be a blocking presence and there are defenders that aren't over-athletic but are solid defenders, like duncan, garnett, horford, noah and so on... don't think that the leaping ability alone is enough to play defense. for sure, athleticizm and a long wingspan might be attractive but it's still not enough. you also have to learn to play without foul trouble and so on... three highlight blocks doesn't make you a great defender.
 
margodydek said:
I'm not an advocate for Kanter (jury's still out on him), but I wouldn't go so far as to say you need a big guy who has lateral quickness and can jump to be a good interior defender. Duncan is probably one of the best interior defenders of the last 10-15 yrs and he has as much athletic ability as Memo. I'd say footwork and positioning are much more important than athletic ability on defense (this is why I think Gordo's a good defender). Another example would be Marc Gasol. Granted when you hear his name "defense" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I bet you wouldn't complain if he were your starting center, as he does a decent enough job of clogging the lane and staying in front of his man.
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this.
 
margodydek said:
I'm not an advocate for Kanter (jury's still out on him), but I wouldn't go so far as to say you need a big guy who has lateral quickness and can jump to be a good interior defender. Duncan is probably one of the best interior defenders of the last 10-15 yrs and he has as much athletic ability as Memo. I'd say footwork and positioning are much more important than athletic ability on defense (this is why I think Gordo's a good defender). Another example would be Marc Gasol. Granted when you hear his name "defense" isn't the first word that comes to mind, but I bet you wouldn't complain if he were your starting center, as he does a decent enough job of clogging the lane and staying in front of his man.
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Size, effort, and fundamentals go a long way. And unlike athleticism, they only get better with age.
 
More and more mocks are putting Kanter at 3rd. He is a nice player, but we shouldn't waste our breath discussing him until we see if we get lucky with the ping pong balls.
 
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