Instead of D-Will2 or D-Will 2.0, somebody else made it up, but D-Will³ because he says he is a small forward which is a three depending on what you call it.
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Instead of D-Will2 or D-Will 2.0, somebody else made it up, but D-Will³ because he says he is a small forward which is a three depending on what you call it.
I would take Kanter over Knight. PGs are easier to find than PF/C. I don't know who I would pick if I had to decide between Kanter and Williams so I would rather stay at 3. There is really no reason to move up to 2 unless the Jazz want a specific player over another and they know he won't be there at 2.
I know everyone thinks Cleveland is going to take Irving but I am not 100 percent sure they will. I wouldn't if I were in their situation. I mean Irving has several questions marks coming in the NBA. If I were Cleveland I would go big first then I would take Kemba or Knight at 4. There isn't that much difference between Irving, Walker or Knight in my humble opinion. They all have things to prove and they all have different strengths and weaknesses.
I know everyone thinks Cleveland is going to take Irving but I am not 100 percent sure they will. I wouldn't if I were in their situation. I mean Irving has several questions marks coming in the NBA. If I were Cleveland I would go big first then I would take Kemba or Knight at 4. There isn't that much difference between Irving, Walker or Knight in my humble opinion. They all have things to prove and they all have different strengths and weaknesses.
Dwill isnt going to fall into our lap. Let's be honest.
This GS pick might not even be a lottery pick. GS has a decent roster if they can get healthy.
We could easily get a 15-18 pick next year. While not bad, that's not much to give up if you get the 2nd best player in the draft.
Not saying we make the trade, but if Dwill3 is our guy then we need to go get him.
trigg3r
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I disagree. Right now a fair projection of the Warriors final record is anywhere from the 8-14 range. Barring a change in the CBA that forces players to play 2 years out of high school before being eligible for the draft, you have a pretty valuable pick there. Draft Express has the mock 2012 draft where Austin Rivers falls all the way down to 10. I know things change and certain guys will raise their stock etc. I am just saying that with the pull outs from this years draft along with the incoming Freshman class, we are going to have a solid pick next year if the Warriors fall into that range. Who knows, maybe the Warriors will be terrible next year and we don't get their pick.
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There's no way the Jazz crack the top 5 picks in 2011.
There's also no way Cleveland wins the lottery either.
Oh wait...
Rivers won't fall to 10 dude. Get a grip he is out. You know that won't happen at all. There is no way he drops out of the top 7 unless he is a bust,
and no one thinks he is.
Yes, we may get 8-12 it's possible, but it's not a sure thing. The warriors have some talent if you are being honest. It's true that hasn't stopped them from sucking for a few years, so we shall see.
If Dwill3 is offered for the GS pick, that is the sure thing, if you like him. You know exactly the person you are getting. The person most people have listed as the second best player in the draft. That's more valuable to me that a lot of iffs and maybes (the only thing we know is we aren't getting one the top
ranked studs of 2012).
Remember they could end up in the top of the lottery, and we get no pick at all.
I just feel like the odds are against us getting someone really good.
Yes, we may get a good player, but it's not a given. If that pick was unprotected however I would lean highly towards keeping it.
jazzrule
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Good question- Lets see if I can answer it. A major weakness for last years Jazz was three point shooting. D'Will is one of the best 3 point shooters coming out. Another major weakness for the Jazz was rebounding. He averaged close to 8 rebounds per game last year and got 13 rebounds in eliminating Duke from the tournament. A player that gets to the line to shoot free throws helps your scoring, but also puts the others teams players on the bench due to foul trouble. D'Will lead the nation last year on getting to the free throw line. He puts the ball on the floor and gets fouled. Did I mention he was a great 3 point shooter. He is a great shooter and he was 5-6 from 3 point range against a Duke team who is one of the stingiest teams around on the perimeter! Williams can play 2 positions and will be a matchup nightmare who can play some three, but will do more than fine against PFs too. Imagine him taking a small forward down low and posting him up, with his explosiveness. I
jazzrule
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Good question- Lets see if I can answer it. A major weakness for last years Jazz was three point shooting. D'Will is one of the best 3 point shooters coming out. Another major weakness for the Jazz was rebounding. He averaged close to 8 rebounds per game last year and got 13 rebounds in eliminating Duke from the tournament. A player that gets to the line to shoot free throws helps your scoring, but also puts the others teams players on the bench due to foul trouble. D'Will lead the nation last year on getting to the free throw line. He puts the ball on the floor and gets fouled. Did I mention he was a great 3 point shooter. He is a great shooter and he was 5-6 from 3 point range against a Duke team who is one of the stingiest teams around on the perimeter! Williams can play 2 positions and will be a matchup nightmare who can play some three, but will do more than fine against PFs too. Imagine him taking a small forward down low and posting him up, with his explosiveness. I want him on the Jazz.
BENTLEY
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Other than Rivers, there's also Gilchrist, Quincy Miller, Perry Jones, Sullinger, Anthony Davis, Bradley Beal.
Also, James McAdoo, John Henson, Patrick Young, Adonis Thomas and Terrence Jones in the top 13.
This year the Jazz are in a really lucky position drafting 3rd. No, they don't get their choice of the top three but they get one of the top 3!!, and after that there's a big drop off in talent. And I'm not sure there's a clear consensus #1 in the top 3 picks this year. They all give some reason for hesitation:
Irving's lack of playing time due to his injury as well as his high body fat %,
uncertainty if Dwill2 can successfully transition to the 3,
Kanter's not having played ball in over a year.
So moving from 3 to 2, or even 3 to 1, I'm not sure that would make the decision easier. I'm glad to get whoever falls AND hold onto the GS pick so you at least have a chance at getting one of the 2012 guys mentioned above.
Given the pretty good chance at landing one of those guys in 2012, it's not worth trading one of them in order to move up to 2. Be optimistic - there's a lot to be positive about. This year the Jazz will land either Dwill, or Kanter, or Irving. That's awesome.
Next year, given the dominant teams in the west + GS tendency to suck just enough to miss the playoffs is also reason for optimism. It's a good gamble. If it busts, hey it was still a good gamble.
margodydek
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I imagine KOC is more stressed about the 12th pick than he is about #3.
JohnStockalypse
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I don't get this obsession some of you have with body fat percentage. We want them to play ball, not model underwear.