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Fish,

Beware of BYU.
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Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path of fandom, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will. It's time... time to move to the redside.
Lol
Well done
 
Don't know what he is. That post seemed to be from a cougar fan though.
Nope he is not a cougar fan. Just ute fan that sees things objectively
 
An apples to oranges argument. Suspenders Boy pussing out on Bronco is a FAN thing. Not even in the same ballpark as what happened yesterday between two teams.

From watching it a few times, I actually consider Memphis the aggressor. I also have no problem with BYU's initial reaction of trying to save one of their teammates who was being ganged up on. However, all the horrible behavior after that can be placed evenly on both teams. #12 from BYU got what was coming to him and continued to act just as awful as any of the Memphis players. The "They started it argument" is not going to excuse BYU's part of the brawl. Quite honestly, shame on both teams.

And it's not fair, but BYU is going to bear the brunt of this from an image standpoint. While Memphis may have been the aggressor, Memphis is also not a religious institution that goes out of it's way to point out how they have higher moral standards and are "different" from other schools. 5 years from now, people will still remember the "BYU Brawl" and Memphis will be but a foot note. Like I said, that isn't fair, and even I don't agree with it, but when you tie yourself to the hip with your religion and supposed higher standards, you're going to be a target to some degree.

And Big B, as far as Ute fans thinking this hasn't/couldn't/wouldn't happen with their team, all I can say is that so far, it hasn't. Might it happen someday? Certainly. I think any team could find themselves in this position at some point. However, this is really bad timing for BYU from an image standpoint. You're not too removed from a few of your players being involved in a brawl with customers at a Mexican restaurant in which punches were thrown, we've seen Max Hall find himself in a bad spot after being a flag waver for class and morals while calling out Utah and their fans, and now the Miami Beach Brawl.

Is all of that BYU's fault? Certainly not, but it's seriously bad PR for a school that strives for the EXACT opposite kind of press and it comes on the heels of a what could be considered an underachieving season for a team that's trying to present itself as a program that warrants P5 inclusion. The big picture isn't pretty right now.
Solid post. Will rep soon.
 
Wow Utes. Your AD sucks.

You're going to lose at least Sitake and the DL coach. So there goes your poly pipeline. Players on Twitter are hinting another loss.

Oregon St is bending U over.
 
Wow Utes. Your AD sucks.

You're going to lose at least Sitake and the DL coach. So there goes your poly pipeline. Players on Twitter are hinting another loss.

Oregon St is bending U over.

Top 25 football program. Top 15 basketball program. Got us in the Pac-12.

I'd say he's alright.


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Top 25 football program. Top 15 basketball program. Got us in the Pac-12.

I'd say he's alright.


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He didn't get you into the Pac. You were the lone choice after CU was invited. Duh. Who else was the Pac going to invite? BYU was the only option and prop 8 killed that. Based on successful sports, fan support, and overall money making ability, BYU would have been the PAC's #1 choice. But religion isn't exactly desired in a conference of Cal and Stanford.

LOL. I'd say it's about time your basketball program show a pulse! How many terrible coaches is Hill still paying off? Try enough times and eventually a blind squirrel will find a nut.

Losing Sitake and the DL coach to Oregon St is huge. They're both pissed. This could have been avoided had Hill offered them contracts earlier.
 
I mean this not to troll, but just for the sake of conversation and to educate myself.

How good is Sitake, really? It seems hard to decouple Whittingham from good defense too.
 
I mean this not to troll, but just for the sake of conversation and to educate myself.

How good is Sitake, really? It seems hard to decouple Whittingham from good defense too.
I think he is more known as a great recruiter than anything else fwiw.
 
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