2014 Draft Combine

[Tony]

ESPNU and ESPN2 will televise 10 hours of live NBA Draft Combine coverage on Thursday, May 15, and Friday, May 16

Oh what the what? I thought it started today.

 

[mellow]

They don't televise the height and weight measurements (today). But they show the jumping running stuff and the basketball drills on Thursday Friday.

Drafte express should start posting measurements this afternoon.

 

[Game6Conley]

also NBA TV has an "NBA Draft Combine Special" today from 1 to 3pm EST

there should be some interviews with the players

 

[Game6Conley]

its telling that Sim Bhullar didnt get an invite to the combine, especially with the lack of Centers

Rudy's records are safe this year

 

[John Crotty]

Every year there is a kid who is supposed to have a 48" vert but it ends up being 38".

He is probably the most effortless jumper I have ever seen.

 

[ema]

^^
Payne at #23 would be a good selection.

Me likes, very safe pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk9h8yI8uuE

if this kid(HS class of 2016) only has a 43" vertical (hes 6'3½") then its hard to believe anyone is going to be near 48"

BUT..who knew Shane Larkin was going to jump 44" last year

it should be interesting to see if any skinny guys put on weight, hopefully Exum is getting close to 195-200lbs

Any 45+ VJ claim is questionable. Not saying impossible and there are plenty of people with it(even 50+) but it's especially hard for pro basketball players since basketball requires constantly high volume exercises(the game itself kind of a high volume exercise) and they have limiting effects on max VJ. So that's why basketball players seem to have a virtual limit at about 43"-46" on max VJ, which is actually already freakishly impressive btw. But I bet any of those guys can come close to the 50" threshold or even pass it if they get away from routine basketball practices and focus solely on their max VJ with much more rest in their schedules.

 

[Qman]

Often players that are quoted as having huge vertical leaps end up have longer arms or something. They do get really, really high in the air but they aren't actually jumping so high.

For reference Blake Griffin's max vert is 35.5". But in a game he explodes off the floor so quickly he dunks on everyone. He isn't actually getting higher than say Jeremy Evans.

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMxCBH9Gz8

Check out how high LaVine can jump off of 1 foot

 

[ema]

Often players that are quoted as having huge vertical leaps end up have longer arms or something. They do get really, really high in the air but they aren't actually jumping so high.

For reference Blake Griffin's max vert is 35.5". But in a game he explodes off the floor so quickly he dunks on everyone. He isn't actually getting higher than say Jeremy Evans.

That's why combine is good to have always. In the combine they measure the vertical jumps from standing reach to jumping reach so no arms or anything can get in the mix.

I don't know about Evans but Griffin who actually has rather unimpressive wingspan, now might have a higher max VJ than his combine measurement of 35.5". His in-game jumps with the ball are almost making his head up to the rim level. I couldn't find a picture that his head can clearly reach to the rim but it's so close that I believe he can do it without the ball in his hands and without getting disturbed by any defense. So I think his current max VJ might be around rather 38"-39" since he stands at 6'10" in shoes and the rim is 10'.

But I agree, the main thing that make his dunks ferocious is his insane explosiveness and quickness while jumping.

 

[John Crotty]

the Dwight Howard Derrick Favors comparisons remind me of this. They have virtually the same measurables, as far as height, length, vertical jump are concerned. But is as clear as day that Favors is no where near Dwight when it comes to in game explosiveness. He's not getting his head up near the rim, hes not even close to as quick a jumper. Combine results are less than ideal when it comes to measuring athletic ability.

 

[orangello]

Me likes, very safe pick.

I don't want safe with any pick.

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[Stifle Tower]

the Dwight Howard Derrick Favors comparisons remind me of this. They have virtually the same measurables, as far as height, length, vertical jump are concerned. But is as clear as day that Favors is no where near Dwight when it comes to in game explosiveness. He's not getting his head up near the rim, hes not even close to as quick a jumper. Combine results are less than ideal when it comes to measuring athletic ability.

Every sport is like that. You can measure how fast, how high, etc., but you have to watch film to ultimately see if the guy is a player or just a workout wonder. Measurements only tell part of the story. And that's why you still have a lot of 2nd rounders that go on to become great players (Boozer, Millsap, etc). They were passed over because they didn't have the ideal height or speed to play a certain position - or didn't shoot well at first, but they maximized their strengths and minimized their weaknesses through sheer effort.