2016-17 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Grayson's Hands, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    He definitely plays D. We are all in agreement on that.
     
  2. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    but that's your definition of elite. There are many guys I would take off your list and put Danny G instead

    Matthews (maybe 4 years ago?)
    Wiggins
    Pj Tucker
    Favors (not this year unfortunately)
    Winslow
    Whiteside
    Batum
    Porter

    But point taken, he may not be elite but he is a very very good defender who can guard multiple positions

    At the end of the day there is a lot of subjectivity with some statistics to back it up (not as great for defense as for offense)
     
  3. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    I agree with this though on the jazz ingles, JJ, and hill are all quite a bit better 3 point shooters % wise and Hayward is better as well and hood is about the same.

    Basically what I should have said instead of saying he sucks is that I wouldn't want him on the jazz with our current roster unless he was ok being the 5th wing competing with exum and burks for scraps.
    Ingles is younger, cheaper, better passer, better shooter, and a very good defender (though green must be better at defense after reading all these posts) and great glue chemistry guy. I don't want green taking ingles minutes.
    Hayward is miles better. Don't want him taking his minutes.
    JJ is more versatile offensively, is a better playmaker, a better shooter, a better rebounder, more clutch and has almost single handedly won a bunch of games for us this year. Don't want green taking joe Jesus minutes.
    Hood is younger, cheaper, about the same good shooter (though I think he will be better very soon), more versatile offensively, gets to the line more (everyone gets to the line more than green), and is a better handler. I would like the jazz to keep developing hood. He is only 24 and in his third season. Don't want green taking his minutes.

    Then you have exum spending some time at the wing and I don't really want him to lose the few minutes he gets. I feel it's important to develop him with a little bit of court time at least.

    Then you have burks who I adore.

    I would pass on green. We got plenty of good wings imo.
     
  4. Eminence

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    He's been top 2 with the Grindfather for SG defensive impact(+/-, drapm, drpm type stats) over the last 5 years or so.
     
  5. seattlejazzfan

    seattlejazzfan Well-Known Member

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    No way
     
  6. seattlejazzfan

    seattlejazzfan Well-Known Member

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    Tony Parker says hello.
     
  7. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Not sure Aldridge is a great defender either.
     
  8. RJF

    RJF Well-Known Member

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    Who's not an all-star. Figured that was a no brainer buuuut...
     
  9. seattlejazzfan

    seattlejazzfan Well-Known Member

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    Lol. Parker isn't close to an all-star.
     
  10. RJF

    RJF Well-Known Member

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    Currently no, but he's a six time all-star.
     
  11. addictionary

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    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/jazzs-george-hill-questionable-for-game-3/
    It's too bad if he misses another one.
     
  12. seattlejazzfan

    seattlejazzfan Well-Known Member

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    Pop played him a lot of minutes this season. When he averaged 10ppg, PER of 13 and had a TS% of 51%. One of the worst starting PGs in the league. Sometimes it's just best to admit you're wrong
     
  13. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    The Spurs' defense may not be as elite as in years past, but it's still better than the Rockets. That's probably why the Spurs will pull out this series.
     
  14. RJF

    RJF Well-Known Member

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    Probably the same reason a lot of coaches play vets. You know, because they're vets.
     
  15. Ignacio

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    Danny Green IS an elite defender. I absolutely despise the Spurs and can admit that. What the hell are you talking about?
     
  16. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but he did have a huge game 6 against Memphis. He was really turning it on in the playoffs and dialing it back to the old Parker.
     
  17. Siro

    Siro Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    He played like garbage in some playoffs games too. I'm pretty sure he can no longer sustainably turn it on any more.
     
  18. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    He had 1 bad game, game 3 of the Grizzlies series. It's hardly accurate to say the Spurs are better without him and having Dejounte Murray start in his place. He had been really good this playoffs up to this point, at least relative to how he performed in the regular season. He had certainly been "turning it on" to some extent.
     
  19. Siro

    Siro Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    That's fair.
     
  20. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    LOL .. who was it that took PJ Tucker off my top 30 defenders?



    Have you seen how he's guarding LeBron this game?!?!
     

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