I mean, he could be a better version of Hill, but I don't see a skillset that would ever make him a top 10 PG.
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2016 Draft Workouts!
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RandyForRubio
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He did finish poorly, but with his length and athleticism, it's hard to see him not improving that. In regards to assists, that's because his coach tried to run a high low offense through Jones. Watch the tape. He didn't play to the strengths of Baldwin. If you actually watch him play you can tell he has good vision.
RandyForRubio
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George Hill is his floor IMO. He's already a 3 and D PG. he played his sophomore season at the age of 19. Look at the PG's coming out of college similar to him. They pretty much all worked out pretty well.
Sidebottom2beams
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Makers combine numbers and measurements
MEASUREMENTS
Height Without Shoes: 6’11.75”
Height With Shoes: 7’0.75”
Weight: 216 lbs
Wingspan: 7’3
Standing Reach: 9’2.5”
Body Fat %: 6.1
Hand Length: 8.75
Hand Width: 9.50
ATHLETIC TESTING
Maximum Vertical Leap: 36.5’
Standing Vertical Leap: 32’
Lane Agility Time: 11.5 seconds
Three Quarter Sprint: 3.33 seconds
Shuttle Run: 3.09 seconds
His standing vertical and max vertical are the highest ever by anyone 6'11 and taller.
MEASUREMENTS
Height Without Shoes: 6’11.75”
Height With Shoes: 7’0.75”
Weight: 216 lbs
Wingspan: 7’3
Standing Reach: 9’2.5”
Body Fat %: 6.1
Hand Length: 8.75
Hand Width: 9.50
ATHLETIC TESTING
Maximum Vertical Leap: 36.5’
Standing Vertical Leap: 32’
Lane Agility Time: 11.5 seconds
Three Quarter Sprint: 3.33 seconds
Shuttle Run: 3.09 seconds
His standing vertical and max vertical are the highest ever by anyone 6'11 and taller.
homeytennis
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Tobey is interesting. He got 20 rebounds on senior night and he's 7 feet.
Some interviews from today's workout:
Demetrius Jackson(he's growing on me, seems like a good kid)
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/s...e_draft_workouts_demetrius_jackson_notre_dame
Marcus Paige:
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/s...re_draft_workouts_marcus_paige_north_carolina
Thon Maker:
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/story/read/utah_jazz_pre_draft_workouts_thon_maker_australia_sudan
Walt Perrin:
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/s..._workouts_walt_perrin_vp_of_player_personnel2
Demetrius Jackson(he's growing on me, seems like a good kid)
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/s...e_draft_workouts_demetrius_jackson_notre_dame
Marcus Paige:
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/s...re_draft_workouts_marcus_paige_north_carolina
Thon Maker:
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/story/read/utah_jazz_pre_draft_workouts_thon_maker_australia_sudan
Walt Perrin:
https://1280thezone.com/index.php/s..._workouts_walt_perrin_vp_of_player_personnel2
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Thon is so well spoken... between that and his physical profile and good athleticism he is really intriguing. Seems like a guy that works hard and loves the game. Mature dude.
In watching his highlights I was a bit put off by his somewhat awkward movements, but it just may be his size and youth that make it look bad... like watching a newborn horse or deer move around.
As a gamble I'd rather take him than Skal.
Some highlights from Walt Perrin:
About Maker:
-him and Paige did really well going through the workout having in mind they had a workout yesterday in New York for 25 teams.
-his body might need 2-3 years before he's ready, but Perrin said he can see a coach give him minutes because of his shooting/faceup game.
-he watched him play 2 years ago, he's gotten bigger, smarter and his shot is better than back then(IMO, all good signs that he's working and improving his game)
-offensively he's likely going to be a faceup player, rather than post up(because of body type), defensively he might have hard time with strong bigs, but he will probably be able to guard players on the perimeter - quick for his size and long.
-he's a very good athlete from baseline to baseline, average to above average athlete vertically(that's interesting because his testing suggest his vertical athleticism is elite)
-good rebounder(good numbers for his age group)
-about basketball IQ - he's a very smart player, picked up things easily, willing to learn. Probably didn't have great coaching so far. The learning curve might be really quick in terms of picking up things.
About Demetrius Jackson:
-good, strong, able to get to the basket, shot it well during drills, above average 3p shooting
-has a way to go defensively... "he's so strong though".
Marcus Paige:
-smart basketball player
-can play PG
At this point I'm all in for drafting Maker at 12.
About Maker:
-him and Paige did really well going through the workout having in mind they had a workout yesterday in New York for 25 teams.
-his body might need 2-3 years before he's ready, but Perrin said he can see a coach give him minutes because of his shooting/faceup game.
-he watched him play 2 years ago, he's gotten bigger, smarter and his shot is better than back then(IMO, all good signs that he's working and improving his game)
-offensively he's likely going to be a faceup player, rather than post up(because of body type), defensively he might have hard time with strong bigs, but he will probably be able to guard players on the perimeter - quick for his size and long.
-he's a very good athlete from baseline to baseline, average to above average athlete vertically(that's interesting because his testing suggest his vertical athleticism is elite)
-good rebounder(good numbers for his age group)
-about basketball IQ - he's a very smart player, picked up things easily, willing to learn. Probably didn't have great coaching so far. The learning curve might be really quick in terms of picking up things.
About Demetrius Jackson:
-good, strong, able to get to the basket, shot it well during drills, above average 3p shooting
-has a way to go defensively... "he's so strong though".
Marcus Paige:
-smart basketball player
-can play PG
At this point I'm all in for drafting Maker at 12.
Elite for his size, I think. Probably average overall.
Jazz4ever
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Yeah even if you discount a couple inches for tanking his standing reach, a max of 36" for a 7'1" player is pretty elite. I only worry about his weight. 216 lbs is 20 lbs lighter than Gobert was at the combine! He would really struggle finishing and holding onto rebounds at that weight.
Except that his size/length is also elite.
Guys like Maker or Sabonis could go lottery. There are so many bigs in this draft who factor into the lottery and mid-first that it's hard to predict who is going to go earlier or later. It depends on individual teams' preference. If the Jazz really like Maker for whatever reason, they should probably just take him at 12.
David Stern
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I honestly worry that Maker is going to be gone before the Jazz pick. Players like him seem to get drafted much higher than expected on draft day.
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If he's gone we likely get a crack at one of either Chriss, Ellenson, or Poetl... All of which I'd prefer.
Yes. He's got elite size (when compared to everyone) with average athleticism (when compared to everyone). At least that's how I took the comment.
I think Deytona Davis will be better than Maker and makes a better comparison to Ibaka. There's a (small) chance he's on the board at 12. With Davis, he's also built enough that he should be able to play as a shooting 5. I think that makes him a sleeper pick for the Jazz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pw_bc95O2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pw_bc95O2c