2016 NBA Season Notes/Info

[BTP]

Drafting a PG with no jump shot is a risk. And yes, drafting players from mid-major is generally considered a risk even if PGAB doesnt agree.

I'd say it's a case by case decision.
In his case I'd say he was a calculated risk. He was a 20yr old junior, which explains why he slipped under the radar in highschool and got to a smaller school.
From his college 'decision' interview:

Payton stated that he had interest from Tulsa, Tulane, Louisiana Tech, Wichita State, Texas A&M and several other state programs. But UL was his only Division 1 offer to date.

His measurements were off the charts. He probably aced psychological exams predraft, seems bright.

 

[BTP]

So a risky pick to you is just drafting a player no one has projected in that range?

No it's making a high risk, high upside pick. Or do you want to tell me that guys like Gobert or Giannis didn't have sky high projected ceilings predraft?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'd say it's a case by case decision.
In his case I'd say he was a calculated risk. He was a 20yr old junior, which explains why he slipped under the radar in highschool and got to a smaller school.
From his college 'decision' interview:


His measurements were off the charts. He probably aced psychological exams predraft, seems bright.

So what does risk entail to you then? Almost every draft pick is a risk.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No it's making a high risk, high upside pick. Or do you want to tell me that guys like Gobert or Giannis didn't have sky high projected ceilings predraft?

Because they were two foreign players who got overlooked. Foreign scouting still isnt as good as local scouting. Gobert was projected to go 5th overall at one point.

 

[BTP]

Because they were two foreign players who got overlooked. Foreign scouting still isnt as good as local scouting. Gobert was projected to go 5th overall at one point.

Yes, they were. I'm sure if I start searching I'll find overlooked American prospects as well. But in this case, if foreign scouting is a market inefficiency despite it being known to be a good pond, they could have done something about it.

 

[BTP]

https://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Draft-Prospect-of-the-Week-Rudy-Gobert-4212/

I just went back to read this pre draft writeup. That's the definition of high risk-high reward. The Jazz got lucky everyone including themselves passed on that potential early in the round and then found a stupid team willing to part with their pick and give the Jazz a no risk - high reward guy(Spurs had the 28th pick if you're curious )

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

https://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Draft-Prospect-of-the-Week-Rudy-Gobert-4212/

I just went back to read this pre draft writeup. That's the definition of high risk-high reward. The Jazz got lucky everyone including themselves passed on that potential early in the round and then found a stupid team willing to part with their pick and give the Jazz a no risk - high reward guy(Spurs had the 28th pick if you're curious )

So what would make Gobert high risk if he was drafted in the mid to late lottery?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think any pick you make in the lottery is high risk, unless you are taking a consensus #1 overall pick. The risk if who you are passing on. I would also add a level of risk to players deemed to be "projects" or not NBA ready. So, to me, criticizing the Magic for not drafting "risky" enough just seems silly. They took plenty of players people deemed to have high potential projects. Gordon, Payton, and Hezonja all fit that category to me.

 

[BTP]

So what would make Gobert high risk if he was drafted in the mid to late lottery?

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. The Sixers took risks with Embiid's foot and back potentially never fully healing and his longevity being impaired heavily. It's still a significant risk that every fan in Philly right now tries to forget.

Just look at Orlando's overall draft performance. Look what picks they gave away. The most ridiculous part was the Saric-Payton bluff.

 

[Game6Conley]

Injury risk is often a double edged sword-- There's also risk in passing on a superior talent due to injury concern a la the teams with the picks before Nerlens Noel or Julius Randle..

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. The Sixers took risks with Embiid's foot and back potentially never fully healing and his longevity being impaired heavily. It's still a significant risk that every fan in Philly right now tries to forget.

Just look at Orlando's overall draft performance. Look what picks they gave away. The most ridiculous part was the Saric-Payton bluff.

What? I asked you a question to what would make Gobert considered a risky pick if he was drafted in the mid to late lottery. You responded "Yep thats basically what Im saying". There might be a language barrier here, but Im asking for you to describe to me what exactly would make Gobert be considered a "risky" pick if he was drafted in the mid to late lottery.

 

[Game6Conley]

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