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[Elizah Huge]

Jordan was 2nd in the league behind Westbrook for uncontested rebounds.

Try again.

Drummond was 1st in contested rebounds too.

LMAO

 

[Elizah Huge]

They were better with him on the bench...

Top-10 defense with him.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Why does Detroit rebound better as a team when Drummond is off the court?

[MENTION=591]White Chocolate[/MENTION]

 

[RandyForRubio]

Top-10 defense with him.

That they were better without him indicates that he was not the reason they were a top 10 defense.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Top-10 defense with him.

Detroit had a 107 DRtg, ranking 8th.

With Drummond on court, they were at 111, ranking 22nd to 23rd overall.

With Drummond off court, they were at 101, which would've ranked #1 overall.

 

[Elizah Huge]

[MENTION=591]White Chocolate[/MENTION]

Jazz are a better defensive rebounding team with Gobert off the floor.

Does that make any sense? Did you see how bad we were at rebounding in the playoffs without Gobert?

On/Off stats are dumb.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Explain to me how Drummond has the most double-doubles in the last 3 years if he is such a bad player.

What about being #1 in contested rebounds and still getting 13.8 a game?

Arguing just to argue.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I like how all of your arguments are based off of on/off stats.

Sorry that Detroit's bench rebounds and plays better defense against opposing benches than the starters do.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Jazz are a better defensive rebounding team with Gobert off the floor.

Does that make any sense? Did you see how bad we were at rebounding in the playoffs without Gobert?

On/Off stats are dumb.

A 0.04 difference with Rudy. Maybe you never took stats, but that's not a large enough difference for there to be any real impact.

On/Off stats aren't dumb, you just don't like them bc they don't favor you right now. I've seen you use them before, so obviously they weren't dumb then.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Explain to me how Drummond has the most double-doubles in the last 3 years if he is such a bad player.

What about being #1 in contested rebounds and still getting 13.8 a game?

Arguing just to argue.

Be honest here. Where has anybody said he's bad? We're just saying he's not as good as Jordan, which even his coach agrees with.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Be honest here. Where has anybody said he's bad? We're just saying he's not as good as Jordan, which even his coach agrees with.

On the defensive end. Which I agree with. Drummond is the better rebounder. Can we agree on that?

 

[RandyForRubio]

On the defensive end. Which I agree with. Drummond is the better rebounder. Can we agree on that?

On both ends.

You can't find any stat that tells me that Drummond is good on offense.

The man uses almost 30% of his possessions on postups where he averages 0.7 ppp. That's awful, and it shows a distinct lack of awareness. Drummond could be very, very good, but in his 4-5 years of playing, he hasn't shown the ability to do that yet.

And yes, he's probably a better rebounder, but honestly, that don't mean that much.