2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[LoPo]

So there is hope they got more stupid

If you are Orlando, what do you have to lose? If they don't get Fultz, Rozier, or DSJ, where do they go? Conley on that mediocre team? No thanks.

Using an expiring to kick the tires on Exum is worth it. Hell, they could get one of those 3 PG's above and have Exum and still come out ahead.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just a reminder people will complain no matter what.

Hayward played his contract and left. People complained.

AD gives his team a notice so they can trade him. People are complaining.

Which way you want it? Players got freedom when they become a UFA.

Exactly... AD is actually the good guy saving them from themselves because they are too dumb to recognize they've screwed up and need to move on.

Hayward sucks because we did many things right and he gave us no notice... not even when he was a few days away from free agency.

PG and AD should be applauded for their honesty. I feel a little bad for AD... he clearly still cares about his teammates (showed up last night in an awkward situation). He will get painted as a sell out, but he's wasting MVP years on a team that sucks, an ownership group that doesn't care about that team 1/10th as much as they do the Saints, and a fanbase that really hasn't shown up.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If you are Orlando, what do you have to lose? If they don't get Fultz, Rozier, or DSJ, where do they go? Conley on that mediocre team? No thanks.

Using an expiring to kick the tires on Exum is worth it. Hell, they could get one of those 3 PG's above and have Exum and still come out ahead.

They might consider Exum for Ross, but they won't be adding to sweeten the pot. Ross is intriguing. Not sure how he fits the rotation unless there are other moves. Maybe in a three teamer where we got Conley and sent Ricky out. So you'd have Conley/DM and add Ross to the mix... IDK... he's a guy that can get 20 points real quick when he's hot and I like those types of rotation guys because they can swing games.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They might consider Exum for Ross, but they won't be adding to sweeten the pot. Ross is intriguing. Not sure how he fits the rotation unless there are other moves. Maybe in a three teamer where we got Conley and sent Ricky out. So you'd have Conley/DM and add Ross to the mix... IDK... he's a guy that can get 20 points real quick when he's hot and I like those types of rotation guys because they can swing games.

I'd rather have Exum than Ross

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

You feel bad for the small market Pelicans because Boston and LA along with their media have been pushing this AD narrative for years with no harsh enough penalties to keep them from tampering.

Exactly what did LA and Boston do that was against any rules?

 

[Deleted member 848]

Jrue Holiday. Jrue Holiday. Dude is our 3rd star.

I’m willing to go full Stannis and burn a daughter at the stake to achieve this objective

Yup

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd rather have Exum than Ross

I’m indifferent. He could be a bad contract sonthe expiring is as much the benefit as the player. Exum is a weird roller coaster ride... the space isn’t that important this offseason so whatevs.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I'd be all in on Holiday.

I think New Orleans will let the deadline pass then just bench AD the rest of the year, trying to get better lottery odds, and keeping their main asset healthy.

In that scenario, why keep Jrue? An extra first, Exum and Favors? Sounds good to me.

 

[LoPo]

PG and AD should be applauded for their honesty. I feel a little bad for AD... he clearly still cares about his teammates (showed up last night in an awkward situation). He will get painted as a sell out, but he's wasting MVP years on a team that sucks, an ownership group that doesn't care about that team 1/10th as much as they do the Saints, and a fanbase that really hasn't shown up.

I applaud PG because he did it in the offseason by informing the team NOT the media. AD came out in the last few weeks talking about how committed he was to NOLA then drops this bomb through his agent to the media. PG, Thon Maker, Kawhi - completely different than AD.

I'll give you the Saints vs Pelicans argument but that front office busted their butt to build around AD (Jrue, Mirotic, Boogie, Randle, Rondo, etc.). It's sucks that Cousins got hurt because that team looked poised to do some offseason damage. And when he went down, they went out and got Mirotic. When he left, they went out and got Randle. They have always been aggressive for AD. And some of this blame has to fall on AD. If he wasn't Mr. Glass every season maybe they win 5-10 more games, get further in the playoffs, etc.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I applaud PG because he did it in the offseason by informing the team NOT the media. AD came out in the last few weeks talking about how committed he was to NOLA then drops this bomb through his agent to the media. PG, Thon Maker, Kawhi - completely different than AD.

I'll give you the Saints vs Pelicans argument but that front office busted their butt to build around AD (Jrue, Mirotic, Boogie, Randle, Rondo, etc.). It's sucks that Cousins got hurt because that team looked poised to do some offseason damage. And when he went down, they went out and got Mirotic. When he left, they went out and got Randle. They have always been aggressive for AD. And some of this blame has to fall on AD. If he wasn't Mr. Glass every season maybe they win 5-10 more games, get further in the playoffs, etc.

I’m fairly sure PG did it mid season but it wasn’t as widely reported... he was on the market that deadline.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd be all in on Holiday.

I think New Orleans will let the deadline pass then just bench AD the rest of the year, trying to get better lottery odds, and keeping their main asset healthy.

In that scenario, why keep Jrue? An extra first, Exum and Favors? Sounds good to me.

I think they are trying to extract the mega offer from NY (zinger, 1st, Knox?) or LA (ball, Ingram, Kuzma, 3 1sts) or they go to the offseason and do the Boston deal. The other offers are likely still there... so they don’t have much to lose.

 

[David Stern]

If we traded for Niko, would we have his bird rights? Or is he on the type of contract where that isn't possible?