FalseFlagg K
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Oh me ...
2019 Trade Deadline Discussion
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RRJazz
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I'm reading how Conley would be enough to keep winning even if injuries strike the Jazz. I just want to remind people that after a 12-5 start the Conley-led Grizzlies are on a 9-28 run. Can anyone explain what happened over there? They are healthy and they've got Gasol and JJJ. Every game against them was a pain in the butt, but they keep losing.
Could we give, and would you want to, NOLA 2 firsts and Dante for Kuz?
LoPo
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It would have to be more like Grayson and picks for Kuzma due to contract. Kuzma can only be traded by himself after he goes to NOLA.
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DerekFromTexas08
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Gasol is not the player he used to be. He's an old school center playing a new, speeded up NBA game and it just doesn't fit him as well. Not saying that he's not good because he is, just not what he used to be.
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Saric is supposedly available. I like him but not sure what has happened to him this year. If it was just a first I’d be interested. He was never a great fit with Towns but he also struggled in Philly this year.
Cptgrnlngs22
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I know a lot of people are against a player like LaVine but... I was reading an article on da Windy City and they were proposing trades to teams such as the nets for carrol and a first or Portland for garbage and a first. If Pistons win the Conley chase and Portland scoops up Mirotic with their first does anyone think the jazz would even consider offering for LaVine? The bulls are interested in Rubio already...
Rubio, Allen, and a first for LaVine and start DM at the 1.
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Rubio, Allen, and a first for LaVine and start DM at the 1.
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RRJazz
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Lavine on offense: incredible potential.
Lavine on defense: think Grayson Allen. The kind of defense that loses you games, from a veteran, at 20M/year.
I don't see QS wanting him, but I've been horribly wrong before.
LoPo
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We could use an exception and a first to go after Saric. Doubt they want to trade him within the division though.
And supposedly, they want a 1st and a player. Not really sure what Minnesota has in mind in terms of that player. They would love to dump Dieng or Teague, but Saric can't make that happen.
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I don’t have it in front of me but over the last day or two someone asked Tony Jones is the Jazz had interest in Lavine. He responded with a firm “no”
RRJazz
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The Athletic Chicago on Parker and Lavine months ago:
"The question that immediately arose after the Bulls signed Jabari Parker and re-upped with Zach LaVine in free agency was how this team could possibly be expected to guard anyone when they’re both on the floor. LaVine and Parker have been considered to be among the worst defenders at their position, and the notion of playing them together didn’t seem to make much sense. [...]
LaVine
LaVine also doesn’t seem to understand defensive rotations. He is very late to communicate switches, often resulting in uncontested dunks or open 3s for opposing teams. He is a chronic over-helper, needlessly leaving his man open to double or triple-team the ball. He is very slow in seeing where he needs to rotate, and he compounds the problem with casual closeouts on open shooters.
LaVine’s worst habit is lagging back in transition defense. When things don’t go his way on offense, he will mentally give up on plays and concede great shots for opponents on the other end.
Parker
Parker faces many of the same defensive issues that plague LaVine. His defensive effort is very poor, especially in transition. He habitually jogs to the middle of the court, not really matching up with anyone.
Parker’s rotations are nonexistent. If he sees an open 3-point shooter, he often won’t even bother trying to run out and contest the shot. That attitude of quitting on possessions extends to every aspect of his defense. Coaches like to reference the necessity of making multiple efforts on a defensive play. But if Parker makes a mistake, he will quit rather than trying to get himself back into the action.
There is more hope for LaVine than Parker because of LaVine’s excellent athleticism. Parker simply lacks the tools to defend against quicker players. Compound that with poor effort, and there’s not much hope for him getting better. [...]"
Months later the Bulls are terrible and both are on the block. I guess the Bulls decided they are a lost cause.
"The question that immediately arose after the Bulls signed Jabari Parker and re-upped with Zach LaVine in free agency was how this team could possibly be expected to guard anyone when they’re both on the floor. LaVine and Parker have been considered to be among the worst defenders at their position, and the notion of playing them together didn’t seem to make much sense. [...]
LaVine
LaVine also doesn’t seem to understand defensive rotations. He is very late to communicate switches, often resulting in uncontested dunks or open 3s for opposing teams. He is a chronic over-helper, needlessly leaving his man open to double or triple-team the ball. He is very slow in seeing where he needs to rotate, and he compounds the problem with casual closeouts on open shooters.
LaVine’s worst habit is lagging back in transition defense. When things don’t go his way on offense, he will mentally give up on plays and concede great shots for opponents on the other end.
Parker
Parker faces many of the same defensive issues that plague LaVine. His defensive effort is very poor, especially in transition. He habitually jogs to the middle of the court, not really matching up with anyone.
Parker’s rotations are nonexistent. If he sees an open 3-point shooter, he often won’t even bother trying to run out and contest the shot. That attitude of quitting on possessions extends to every aspect of his defense. Coaches like to reference the necessity of making multiple efforts on a defensive play. But if Parker makes a mistake, he will quit rather than trying to get himself back into the action.
There is more hope for LaVine than Parker because of LaVine’s excellent athleticism. Parker simply lacks the tools to defend against quicker players. Compound that with poor effort, and there’s not much hope for him getting better. [...]"
Months later the Bulls are terrible and both are on the block. I guess the Bulls decided they are a lost cause.
LoPo
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Zach Lavine is a perfect opportunity for a 3 team trade. Chicago gets Rubio and some kind of draft compensation from a 3rd team, the 3rd team gets Lavine, and we get something we like.
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