2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[NUMBERICA]

Then what will they do if they use Favors to match Conley's salary? We're thin at that position, and they're definitely planning to bring some else in.

Exum (and a 2nd) for Mirotic.

Or whatever, frankly. There aren't a lot of lumbering 4s in the league that will win a matchup so handily against the Jazz that it is a net-positive. That isn't to say that the Jazz's situation at the 4 couldn't be a lot better than filling the position by committee (Jae, Royce, Joe, Thabo).

However... the Jazz will be cap-strapped if they get Conley, so having Mirotic's Bird Rights at that point would then become pivotal. Hmm.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I dont blame Conley for trying to posture himself to Toronto. That's where I'd want to go as well considering they have a legit Finals chance.

 

[DasJazz]

I WOULD NOT SAY SUCH THINGS IF I WERE YOU

To which Buttercup replies: Why not? You can't hurt me. Westley and I are joined by the bonds of love, and you cannot track that; not with a thousand bloodhounds. And you cannot break it, not with a thousand swords. And when I say you're a coward, it is only because you are the slimiest weakling ever to crawl the Earth.

 

[NUMBERICA]

And the 76 getting Harris is just the icing on the cake. Unbelievable. And Dallas getting Porzingis? What the **** are we doing?? How is DL not able to get a third star next to Rudy and DM? The time is now.

The Sixers dumped basically their entire asset-hoard for a guy that could just walk at the end of the year. And that asset-hoard is at least twice the size of the maximum that the Jazz could or should have offered.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Maybe Utah, Indy, and Toronto should talk shop amongst themselves.

Rubio for Delon Wright and Fred VanVleet could be the basis of something. I think they'd want Favors though.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I don't actually believe they've offered Favors. Tony or Andy would've reported that by now.

Reportedly, the Jazz offered Favs, Rubio, 1st, 2nd.

 

[Miggs]

Reportedly, the Jazz offered Favs, Rubio, 1st, 2nd.

Link?

 

[David Stern]

Honestly Toronto and Memphis should just trade with each other. Lowry+Valaciunas+2 Firsts for Conley + Gasol.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Nothing about Conley's reported character/personality would suggest he'd refuse to play for Utah if he got traded here. He'd probably just not be as stoked as he'd like to be.

 

[stitches]

I dont think Conley distaste for Utah is market. I think it's he just wants an easier path for his career (playoffs and all-star) in the East.

At the end of the day there is always going to be an excuse that "makes it more understandable". "oh he wanted to go to his home team", "oh he just wanted to play for his college coach", "oh he wanted to go the the East"... it ultimately doesn't matter what the excuse is. The point is that there is always a nicer sounding excuse for what ultimately boils down to "you are Utah, who the hell wants to play in Utah". You are never going to be the first choice and in a lot of cases you are going to be the last choice.

I'm so ****ing dejected right now.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Honestly Toronto and Memphis should just trade with each other. Lowry+Valaciunas+2 Firsts for Conley + Gasol.

So then Toronto pays the mega tax when they max Kawhi?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I'd be curious to know why Toronto would be shopping Lowry. Do they want to give his minutes to younger guys, are they trying to dump his contract, or are they trying to get a better player back than him? If we could trade Rubio+Favors and not give up any picks to get Lowry+Stretch 4, I think that'd be interesting.

Lowry is declining. Kawhi is probably going to leave Toronto. The Raptors could use another big after they traded away Poeltl to San Antonio. They probably caught wind of the Jazz's offer for Conley and called the Jazz to do a similar deal.