Oh, just that Stockton is a better pg. Which happens to be where they are matched up at this.
So, who is the better PG in this competition? I'm comparing by position isolated. Who's the better pg, Stockton or Magic?
2021 All-Time NBA Draft Finals: Thee Idiotic Minivan K vs Wes Mantooth
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So, who is the better PG in this competition? I'm comparing by position isolated. Who's the better pg, Stockton or Magic?
Thee Jazz Fan
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Your an idiot
Lol, I like Kawhi. Do you think he's better than LeBron?
Perfect answer from you.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Where in that did I say he is better than LBJ? Idiot. All I said is Leonard makes him less affective making his team not as good as it usually would be, he won finals MVP largely because of this.
You're reaching real hard in this one. Best of luck though, I think you have a really good team.
LoPo
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Wes Mantooth is the clear choice for me.
Magic is a better all around player than Stockton, but this is a close matchup. Ray Allen was really good, but so was Michael Cooper. Cooper really was a top notch perimeter defender in addition to being a good shooter. I think Cooper would guard his close buddy Magic while Stockton would stay on Ray Allen limiting his open looks.
After that, I think Pippen/LeBron and Russell are just better than Klay, Kawhi and Rudy in any era.
Thee could start Barkley instead of Allen which would be compelling, but Wes could also start Petrovic instead of Cooper. LBJ would run circles around Barkley while Sir Charles wouldn't be able to bully ball LeBron. Klay would have his hands full with Petrovic.
Magic is a better all around player than Stockton, but this is a close matchup. Ray Allen was really good, but so was Michael Cooper. Cooper really was a top notch perimeter defender in addition to being a good shooter. I think Cooper would guard his close buddy Magic while Stockton would stay on Ray Allen limiting his open looks.
After that, I think Pippen/LeBron and Russell are just better than Klay, Kawhi and Rudy in any era.
Thee could start Barkley instead of Allen which would be compelling, but Wes could also start Petrovic instead of Cooper. LBJ would run circles around Barkley while Sir Charles wouldn't be able to bully ball LeBron. Klay would have his hands full with Petrovic.
Coach Ellis
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Neither Cooper or Petrovic should be starting in this thing.
Thee’s starting lineup has a major weakness at PF against all-timers, but this matchup is perfect for him. Overall firepower of the starting lineup is an advantage to Thee, though the bench feels like a bunch of guys thrown together.
On the other hand. Wes has elite passing and defense across his starters which are key attributes in these contests, whereas Magic is gonna be the entire engine for Thee. Cooper is a reach as a starter since he didn’t even do that in the normal NBA. I think I like Wes’s bench better.
Shooting/spacing is a bit of a wash starters v starters (Thee with the most potent shooters, Wes with one more believable spacer than Thee... I think, IIRC Pippen was a decent shooter by that year). Hard to say that a starting lineup featuring Klay and Ray isn’t ultimately superior.
It’s hard to compare Bill Russell to a modern NBA player. His defensive impact is undoubtedly the greatest the league has ever seen or will ever see, but that is largely a product of spacing being so poor. He was a terrible FT shooter, too. I’m not sure that if the tables were turned, Gobert wouldn’t be as absolutely dominant in the same way. That all being said, what we know is that Bill Russell won a gaudy amount of rings with very little besides defense/rebounding, so he gets the edge.
My gut says Wes, but when I break it down I am not sure.
On the other hand. Wes has elite passing and defense across his starters which are key attributes in these contests, whereas Magic is gonna be the entire engine for Thee. Cooper is a reach as a starter since he didn’t even do that in the normal NBA. I think I like Wes’s bench better.
Shooting/spacing is a bit of a wash starters v starters (Thee with the most potent shooters, Wes with one more believable spacer than Thee... I think, IIRC Pippen was a decent shooter by that year). Hard to say that a starting lineup featuring Klay and Ray isn’t ultimately superior.
It’s hard to compare Bill Russell to a modern NBA player. His defensive impact is undoubtedly the greatest the league has ever seen or will ever see, but that is largely a product of spacing being so poor. He was a terrible FT shooter, too. I’m not sure that if the tables were turned, Gobert wouldn’t be as absolutely dominant in the same way. That all being said, what we know is that Bill Russell won a gaudy amount of rings with very little besides defense/rebounding, so he gets the edge.
My gut says Wes, but when I break it down I am not sure.
LoPo
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Wes could go big with Pippen, LeBron and Wallace with Russell and Stockton. Or he could go small with Frazier and Stockton in the backcourt.
Regardless, Stockton, Pippen, LeBron and Russell is as good as I have ever seen assembled in one of these. That foursome literally has everything on both sides of the court.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Reaching? It happened it’s nba history?