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Cam is the ideal, or at least he can become the idea fit. Lauri is better off the ball on both ends. We need a ball in hand scorer and a primary wing defender.

Beyond fit I just think his speed+power combo is elite. He's not a perfect prospect, but as with Anthony Edwards sometimes you've got to stop nitpicking and realize talent right in front of you. Same is being said for Twins, I suppose, but Cam is much younger and did not play in an AAU tournament.
I would have liked to see what Cam would have done in OTE. He would have murdered that league. Not saying the level of competition is ******... just the play style... go ahead and stop that guy in transition.
 
I would have liked to see what Cam would have done in OTE. He would have murdered that league. Not saying the level of competition is ******... just the play style... go ahead and stop that guy in transition.
Interesting. By bifurcating level of competition from style of play, you could also say that all-star games are an elite level of competition but the worst style of play.
 
I realized I said rebounding is "overrated" when I meant to say underrated, I need some coffee lol. You're right though. Sometimes you need to keep it simple. Doing a lot of **** = good. It's easy to get lost in the measurements and testing.
I read it the way you meant... was just adding my two cents. I think when a guy has limited size and athleticism that type of rate reflects how smart and committed they are. It makes sense. Looking at game logs there could also be some westbrooky stat hunting stuff in there on some nights, but without watching who knows.
 
The exciting thing is those skills complement the other, they are not mutually exclusive.

Cam was elite as a spot-up/catch-and-shoot guy IIRC. If you have to guard that then he has eye-popping indicators that he will destroy close-outs.

We are talking super small sample sizes. 13 total catch and shoot threes for him.

His mid-range off the dribble is lacking and his off the dribble three is bad as well.

I never said they were mutually exclusive but let’s pump the breaks on saying he’s some elite shooter.

I like him a lot too but we are getting a little carried away here.
 
Interesting. By bifurcating level of competition from style of play, you could also say that all-star games are an elite level of competition but the worst style of play.
Yeah there is just so much transition basketball in ote and Cam may have done some absurd numbers in that style.
 
We are talking super small sample sizes. 13 total catch and shoot threes for him.

His mid-range off the dribble is lacking and his off the dribble three is bad as well.

I never said they were mutually exclusive but let’s pump the breaks on saying he’s some elite shooter.

I like him a lot too but we are getting a little carried away here.
Sure. But I think in his case, you can make a good argument that the negative of the small sample size is balanced by the positive of missing a bunch of time from and playing through an injury in terms of projecting general ability.
 
I think in his case, you can make a good argument that the negative of the small sample size is balanced by the positive of missing a bunch of time from and playing through an injury.

He took a high volume amount of 3’s and shot 34.3%.
 
We are talking super small sample sizes. 13 total catch and shoot threes for him.

His mid-range off the dribble is lacking and his off the dribble three is bad as well.

I never said they were mutually exclusive but let’s pump the breaks on saying he’s some elite shooter.

I like him a lot too but we are getting a little carried away here.
I wouldn't say elite... I think the eye test and percentages tell me he will shoot it. I think the lack of catch and shoot opportunities is indicative that his situation kind of sucked and if he had more opportunities there his percentages would be better... in general catch and shoot will be significantly better than off the dribble, but not always.

He has some warts for sure. I think his warts have some of the most believable excuses and also are areas that he can improve. I have him #4 and would love to trade up for him. I just don't see him being a bust... even if he does underwhelm.
 
I will add that Cam’s combination of strength, off-the-dribble speed, quick leaping, and high leaping is extremely rare. Certainly the only in this draft with it.

He puts his head down and isn’t a good passer. I’m not saying that isn’t important. But with our development staff and frontcourt, I take that gamble 8 days a week.
 
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