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2023 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread

Quin was a disaster by the end of his tenure here but us not winning a championship over the last 3 years falls squarely on Lindsey and Zanik. Replace Udoka with Bane or Jalen McDaniels may have gotten us there. Replace Favors with Portis who made way more sense than Favors and one of those other guys and I think we have a banner right now.
 
sip said:
Quin was a disaster by the end of his tenure here but us not winning a championship over the last 3 years falls squarely on Lindsey and Zanik. Replace Udoka with Bane or Jalen McDaniels may have gotten us there. Replace Favors with Portis who made way more sense than Favors and one of those other guys and I think we have a banner right now.
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Mostly agree.

We also could never rely on Conley to stay healthy. Our backcourt offensively was good. But defensively they were a disaster. And they always seemed injured come playoff time. Without Murray, Denver is a 2nd round team. They might not have even gotten past Minny in the 1st round.
 
The Thriller said:
Impossible not to read this as both a congrats to Denver and a swipe at the Jazz and his former teammates…


View: https://twitter.com/rudygobert27/status/1668459954783780865?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw
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Well, Rudy has to understand:
1, Jokic is a MVP level player and future HoFer. We simply didn't have anyone who could match his talent & level of production.
2, Nuggets did a much better job filling out the roster around Jokic. Struck perfect balance between defense and offense.
3, Mike Malone said it best. All they did was simply develop their own guys instead of forcing themselves into a “win-now mode” by taking a gamble on a “proven”(aging) veteran on a massive contract. Kinda like the Celtics approach. Jokic is still only 27 right now. Gordon 27. Murray 25. MPJ 24. There's literally no reason they can't contend again for the next three to five seasons. All they need to do is to keep the core together, continue to build their chemistry while watching other teams crash and burn with those aging "superstars” like KD(35yr old), Harden(34yr old), Dame(33yr old), Kyrie(32 yr old), etc. We probably would've been able to keep Mitchell and Rudy, had we not gone into a "win-now” by going all in on Conley in 2019.
 
The Thriller said:
Impossible not to read this as both a congrats to Denver and a swipe at the Jazz and his former teammates…


View: https://twitter.com/rudygobert27/status/1668459954783780865?s=46&t=QT7YFlZ_IlHq81PpZAhKgw
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Don't blame him. Mitchell gave up on this team, and ownership refused to just replace Quinn, instead blowing it up. Yeah we came out on top in assets but it remains to be seen whether we can put a team together that has more success than the Gobert/Mitchell teams did. They had their shot and essentially just blew it on bad acquisitions, bad coaching, and bad team play. So I don't blame Gobert for being a tad salty there. He's right.
 
The Thriller said:
It’s a collective effort.

Rudy and Don’s failures to put aside egos and work together was catastrophic. Both have glaring deficits in their games too. Rudy refused to develop an offensive move or jumper and Don just plain refuses to play defense.

The FO failed to recognize that which fans knew 5+ years ago. Royce wasn’t the defensive wing you needed for a championship team. They had years to address this and never did. That 2021 summer was just appalling. Denver shook things up a bit. Lost Grant but gained Gordon. Bruce Brown was a key addition. Wasn’t he a free agent this last year and was picked up for pennies? The Conley trade was an epic failure. He could never stay healthy when it counted and we gave up too many assets to obtain him.
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Yeah, that's true as well. Utah had a bit of success and got complacent. Denver kept working. There was a reason why Jokic owned Gobert consisently.
 
Do you guys remember how jazz fans were saying we stole Donovan and Rudy via trade from the Nuggets and then win the championship before the Nuggets? Plot twist. lol
 
Snyder was the #1 reason why we didn't win a championship and really nobody else. He was really awful in the playoffs every year. Who's fault was it we lost to a Kawhi-less Clippers or let the Nuggets come back in the series 3-1 and beat us in 2020 or losing to a Luka-less Mavs? 100% Snyder's fault and nobody else
 
I remember a couple years ago, right before the 2021 playoffs, where I had the audacity to call Quin a mediocre playoff coach. I got lambasted pretty hard by a few here.

Well he is. Quin is too stubborn of a coach to be successful in a playoff series because a playoff is all about adjustments and match-ups and he's the type of coach that is hell-bent on doing it his way no matter what.
 
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