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2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

NUMBERICA said:
It's not clicking. Let's run through this scenario: It's 2027 and the Wolves suck again as most of the supporting cast ages out and McDaniels never becomes a legitimate offensive option. Ant in some way, shape, or form would like out and the Wolves want their draft futures back. What are we offering that doesn't **** up keeping our pick and gets them theirs back without further finagling?
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We offer them either the second most favorable or the most favorable of all three picks we own in 2027/2029.
 
NUMBERICA said:
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Jazz get their pick owed to the Thunder back outright and their '26 2nd rounder back by sending OKC the Chicago pick with similar protections via SAS. Protects against the very-possible scenario of the Jazz getting absolutely nothing in the draft next year and makes the Wolves and Cavs picks swappable again (unlikely they'll need it, but still nice to have just in case something crazy happens). This protects draft futures on both ends of winning:
-If the Jazz have a crazy jump they'll keep their pick (which makes the possibility of swapping at all possible, also).
-If the Jazz tank crazy hard, they'll get essentially a late-1st
-If the Jazz are a borderline play-in team that might've otherwise conveyed the pick, they will keep ~10 and ~40.

Thunder might need something else but I honestly don't know what fits the bill (2nds in the farthest years out possible?). I guess you get max value by tanking our asses off again just keep Chicago's, but if you think you might start going for it next year then this is the way to go.
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What are you, some kind of spurs fan? The jazz get absolutely hosed in that deal. All we get is a decent vet but past his prime, another vet but a ****** one who might not be in the rotation and then some mysterious prospect that probably sucks and our own pick back that we probably won’t convey anyways. I’d rather just keep Collins and Sexton.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
What are you, some kind of spurs fan? The jazz get absolutely hosed in that deal. All we get is a decent vet but past his prime, another vet but a ****** one who might not be in the rotation and then some mysterious prospect that probably sucks and our own pick back that we probably won’t convey anyways. I’d rather just keep Collins and Sexton.
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The Jazz can just keep the Chicago pick. The Spurs probably pass on this, it is very much a buyer’s market and Sexton or Collins alone might net one bad 1st. I’d rather have a good first than two bad ones, and it’s a bonus cuz it probably actually conveys in 2026 (when the Jazz might not have a single draft pick as currently constructed).

Furthermore, Sexton is probably gone after next year, so by your logic (‘we probably keep our own pick’) we are keeping him to tank another year? That makes no sense.

Finally, yes, I want the Spurs to do better this year.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Why would you want that over a 2028 Kings pick? The Kings are pretty well set up to be a solid team for years to come. I don't see them blowing it up. They got a great fan base and will probably be content being a spunky playoff team for years.

If you really want the Jazz to keep the pick, just tank another year
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As for long-term planning, that might be the best, but tanking sucks so ****ing hard. Please, no. I'm invested in just throwing this season, but I need to get back on track here.
 
I don't see our obsession as Jazzfanz to get back our pick from the Thunder. We obviously have no chance of losing it this year.

Next year we have to end bottom 8 which is very likely even if we get Cooper Flagg.

After that, there is no loss of a 1st round pick. Protections are gone. We keep it.

Sure, we want to be competitive next year but I would rather have other assets than claw back one we most likely never gave up just doing what we are doing.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Next year we have to end bottom 8 which is very likely even if we get Cooper Flagg.
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We really need to finish bottom 6 or 7 to feel really comfortable that we end up with a bottom 8 pick. I don't think it's a huge leap to think we could be better than that next year. It means we have to do more of this sitting players like this year, which I don't blame anyone if they don't like it.

Trying to get our pick back from OKC is shortsighted, but I get why people would want to do it.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
We really need to finish bottom 6 or 7 to feel really comfortable that we end up with a bottom 8 pick. I don't think it's a huge leap to think we could be better than that next year. It means we have to do more of this sitting players like this year, which I don't blame anyone if they don't like it.

Trying to get our pick back from OKC is shortsighted, but I get why people would want to do it.
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Also I think it would be hard for our guys to stomach sitting while healthy again next year. Especially if we landed a top 2 pick this year. I think the players and coaches would be chomping at the bit to win games next year. Tough ask to tell those guys to just keep sucking *** and sitting while healthy for another year. Tough ask for the fans too.
I think if we don't trade anyone by the start of next season then we don't tank and give up the 19th ish pick to the thunder and shrug our shoulders.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also I think it would be hard for our guys to stomach sitting while healthy again next year. Especially if we landed a top 2 pick this year. I think the players and coaches would be chomping at the bit to win games next year. Tough ask to tell those guys to just keep sucking *** and sitting while healthy for another year. Tough ask for the fans too.
I think if we don't trade anyone by the start of next season then we don't tank and give up the 19th ish pick to the thunder and shrug our shoulders.
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It’s partly why I’m so interested in what we do this deadline. The tank is going well this year… but we’ve managed it a lot. Not sure we want to do this much for another year and a half… so make a deal.

Locke says this is year 1 of 3 probably… if that’s the case just move Lauri this summer cuz what are we even doing here.
 
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