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My lunch break today was a deep dive on Ajay Mitchell. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of good scouting videos for second round prospects, but the one on the bottom is ok.

Offensively I like Ajay. He's got decent size for a point guard. I like that he can score at all 3 levels. He isn't especially athletic, but he is crafty at getting his shot off. I'm not sure it will all translate to the NBA. I kind of see him as a Jared Butler level player.

Defensively it's a no for me. He doesn't have a great wingspan and doesn't have great agility scores, and it shows on film. He has a hard time staying in front of his guy. He gets some steals due to being smart, so maybe he works in a team concept, but he isn't a guy I would want the Jazz to draft.


View: https://youtu.be/FjXraqUzP14?si=7iaajda3I9HP6OFc
 
SoberasHotRod said:
My lunch break today was a deep dive on Ajay Mitchell. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of good scouting videos for second round prospects, but the one on the bottom is ok.

Offensively I like Ajay. He's got decent size for a point guard. I like that he can score at all 3 levels. He isn't especially athletic, but he is crafty at getting his shot off. I'm not sure it will all translate to the NBA. I kind of see him as a Jared Butler level player.

Defensively it's a no for me. He doesn't have a great wingspan and doesn't have great agility scores, and it shows on film. He has a hard time staying in front of his guy. He gets some steals due to being smart, so maybe he works in a team concept, but he isn't a guy I would want the Jazz to draft.


View: https://youtu.be/FjXraqUzP14?si=7iaajda3I9HP6OFc
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He seems like 2 way contract guy.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If everything goes perfectly, maybe he could become a top 10-15 guy. A player "like Shai" doesn't have to be literally Shai. I'm referring to Cody becoming an elite isolation scorer and on-ball creator, which would be a top-end outcome for him.

Also, a bigger version of Shai isn't necessarily the best player in the league.
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I mean SGA is arguably already the best player in the league, so a taller version of him would have a legitimate claim.

It's also just wild to project him as an elite isolation scorer when he doesnt currently have any dribble pull up game to speak of.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean SGA is arguably already the best player in the league, so a taller version of him would have a legitimate claim.

It's also just wild to project him as an elite isolation scorer when he doesnt currently have any dribble pull up game to speak of.
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First of all, no one is going to argue that SGA is better than Jokic or Doncic. He's probably not better than Giannis either when it comes to playoff scenarios. So you're reaching with that argument. Let's say that SGA was a top-5 player this year.

Cody has the tools to score in isolation. As a freshman, he beat his defender and got to the rim fairly regularly, finishing at an elite level using touch and different angles. Just because he didn't shoot a lot of pull-ups at Colorado doesn't mean he can't or won't going forward. He's shown decent shooting touch at multiple levels, so as a 19 y.o. the expectation is that he'll expand his game.

In responding to Eliza's comment about 'seeing the vision' with Cody Williams, I said that developing like Shai was a best-case scenario with a low probability (around 10%) and that a more reasonable expectation would be someone like Josh Howard. If you could read more clearly and restrain your urge to make disingenuous remarks you'd grasp that we're having a more nuanced discussion.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
First of all, no one is going to argue that SGA is better than Jokic or Doncic. He's probably not better than Giannis either when it comes to playoff scenarios. So you're reaching with that argument. Let's say that SGA was a top-5 player this year.

Cody has the tools to score in isolation. As a freshman, he beat his defender and got to the rim fairly regularly, finishing at an elite level using touch and different angles. Just because he didn't shoot a lot of pull-ups at Colorado doesn't mean he can't or won't going forward. He's shown decent shooting touch at multiple levels, so as a 19 y.o. the expectation is that he'll expand his game.

In responding to Eliza's comment about 'seeing the vision' with Cody Williams, I said that developing like Shai was a best-case scenario with a low probability (around 10%) and that a more reasonable expectation would be someone like Josh Howard. If you could read more clearly and restrain your urge to make disingenuous remarks you'd grasp that we're having a more nuanced discussion.
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Sir you are the one being disingenuous. Maybe dont say hyperbolic things. He does not have a 10% chance outcome at being a taller SGA.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
First of all, no one is going to argue that SGA is better than Jokic or Doncic. He's probably not better than Giannis either when it comes to playoff scenarios. So you're reaching with that argument. Let's say that SGA was a top-5 player this year.

Cody has the tools to score in isolation. As a freshman, he beat his defender and got to the rim fairly regularly, finishing at an elite level using touch and different angles. Just because he didn't shoot a lot of pull-ups at Colorado doesn't mean he can't or won't going forward. He's shown decent shooting touch at multiple levels, so as a 19 y.o. the expectation is that he'll expand his game.

In responding to Eliza's comment about 'seeing the vision' with Cody Williams, I said that developing like Shai was a best-case scenario with a low probability (around 10%) and that a more reasonable expectation would be someone like Josh Howard. If you could read more clearly and restrain your urge to make disingenuous remarks you'd grasp that we're having a more nuanced discussion.
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And SGA just went toe to toe with Luka in a playoff series while his co-stars are all on their rookie contracts, so yeah, I think some people would argue a taller SGA would be the best player in the NBA. He's also not a weak link on D like Luka is and a taller SGA would probably be a top tier defender as far as 1st options on offense go.

And you are really trying hard to backpedal. What's the difference between Cody developing like Shai and Cody being Shai (and we can all look back, you did not use that language)? Either way the outcome is the same and you are saying he has top 5 player in the NBA potential.

I know you get really butthurt when I call you out on hyperbole, but you got to expect that when you say wild stuff. I guess the tried and true Cody Williams spiel got a bit tired for you so you had to spice it up.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Josh Howard was a damn good player. He’d be in play for the #1 pick if there was a 10% chance he’s SGA he’d be a top 3 pick especially in this draft.
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He wouldnt. Josh Howard is a fine comp, just no need to add a 10% (which is a large percent chance) at becoming a top 5 player by the age of 25.
 
only really saw cody play once other than highlights. i dont know if he was playing injured, but he was slow and looked disintersted. i would pick 15 other guys at 10 before i considered williams.
 
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